Anyone run a 200 rear tire?

[1olbull]

@TriumPhil
Oh my, would that be Elvis and Elvis????

 

[wsk3]

All a matter of perspective with these things... Motorcycle tires, just like performance car tires, are made from a rubber compound that yields better performance in several characteristics (speed rating, grip, wet/inclement weather, handling, etc.). That's why you can buy all-season, M/S, A/T, etc rated tires. Those designations don't just come from tread design. They have a lot to do with material ductility and other mechanical properties of the product at certain temperatures and in certain conditions. Motorcycle tires are not necessarily designed for the longevity you'd expect from a car touring tire. They are designed for peak handling, grip, even wear, wet weather performance, and on the list goes. Saying that no engineer(s) has designed a tire for this motorcycle is ludicrous. They just haven't designed a tire that performs as we all expect and has a 30k mile lifespan. It would be very difficult to find the best of both worlds, here. If you are only concerned about longevity of the tire, then run a car tire. If you prefer to have the performance from a motorcycle-specific tire, then run one of those. Perception dictates reality. Live and let live, gentlemen.

Also, I am a Resins engineer and work in manufacturing and design. People need to realize that products are designed for more than just 'whatever the company wants.' There are guidelines that have to be followed in the manufacturing world that the consumer never sees. Open your eyes. Engineers can't just work for 'the MAN'; they also have to design for safety, performance, manufacturability, etc. Making sweeping statements about how none of them are competent is a gross misrepresentation of a group of technical folks and is an insult to those who work to improve products for the rest of us.

I have no training as an engineer but your comments make sense. I am thinking that the OEM tires on the R3T wear fast because the compounds in their production afford the tire more traction (grip) at the expense of service life. I think the weight of this machine needs tires that behave as such. As a rider I want tires that will keep the bike upright more so than last longer. If this means I have signed on to a ride that gets new rubber more frequently I think I can live with that.

 

[Camptc]

Well stated. I agree

 

[Elvis]

I have no training as an engineer but your comments make sense. I am thinking that the OEM tires on the R3T wear fast because the compounds in their production afford the tire more traction (grip) at the expense of service life. I think the weight of this machine needs tires that behave as such. As a rider I want tires that will keep the bike upright more so than last longer. If this means I have signed on to a ride that gets new rubber more frequently I think I can live with that.

I would agree had it not been for that OEM tire that was on the bike, it could have cost my life, I was lucky and saw the blister, if it had not been parked right it would have been a wreck for sure. The Metz was not much better but it was free so what the hell. The Avons are the best MT in my opinion for this bike but even they do not handle, grip and stop on a dime like the Altimax.

 

[1olbull]

Sure like to see some testing that backs these claims up.
All of our opinions regarding handling and braking performance are totally subjective and useless for comparative purposes.
Motor riding and braking are very complex skill sets. There are tremendous differences in individual riding and braking abilities that must be normalized before ANY true comparisons of tires can be made.
ignoring this testing protocol is kind of like stating, "I have ridden thousands of miles and my bike's speedometer is more accurate than yours."

 

[Elvis]

Sure like to see some testing that backs these claims up.
All of our opinions regarding handling and braking performance are totally subjective and useless for comparative purposes.
Motor riding and braking are very complex skill sets. There are tremendous differences in individual riding and braking abilities that must be normalized before ANY true comparisons of tires can be made.
ignoring this testing protocol is kind of like stating, "I have ridden thousands of miles and my bike's speedometer is more accurate than yours."

Of course you would, you remind me of this commercial:

 

[1olbull]

Of course you would, you remind me of this commercial:

ECELLENT VIDEO ANALOGY!
I be the black fellow and you be the French model!

 

[TriumPhil]

Quit while you're behind, Elvis! You are outgunned...

 

[ksquared]

Sure like to see some testing that backs these claims up.
All of our opinions regarding handling and braking performance are totally subjective and useless for comparative purposes.
Motor riding and braking are very complex skill sets. There are tremendous differences in individual riding and braking abilities that must be normalized before ANY true comparisons of tires can be made.
ignoring this testing protocol is kind of like stating, "I have ridden thousands of miles and my bike's speedometer is more accurate than yours."

Bull: Objective testing wouldn't make a d*mn bit of difference to a Darksider. They're true believers and would instantly criticize the testing protocol or the unfamiliarity of the tester with darkside tires, or some other reason that the results were not in favor of darksiding. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink - all you can do is hope he doesn't die from his thirst.

 

[johnreeder]

I was really referring to the dark side tire sizes.



[QPUOTE="Tripps, post: 253995, member: 2619"]I ordered the Cobras with a 200 rear, let you know what I think.[/QUOTE]
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