A little perplexed and curious.

Boog said:

I'll just say for now that mom was friendlier than the girlfriend was...

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Boog said:

Now about your title of the thread, I had my first perplexed and curious moment when in my teens, my girlfriend's mom started flirting with me. But that tale is for another time...

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Ishrub said:

Ahhh! So many 'Limits' which do vary individually and in symphony due to innumerable factors that prevent 100% surety. It only takes an big oil spot or leaking diesel or trapped slop-over from filling released by road bumps to be encountered at a moment that torque or power exceeded available traction etc. etc.

IF it was an oil spot/drip/ slop or similar cause of a loss of traction (like a polished worn surface, patch of a different road mix or truck tire wear point), it is possible that without that instant of extra torque when the spot was encountered nothing may have happened. Unless you can repeat it in similar general road conditions it may be simply a unhappy mix of circumstances and not due to your machine or tires.

I USED to ride a FZ750 5 valver in 1988 and took it around Tasmania with my rear brake gglowing cherry red most of the time and I enjoyed power sliding while keeping a pretty heavy foot on the rear brake. An FZ750 would still slaughter a rocket on twisties. I am no hero but it is a LOT easier to control power sliding when high revs and much less torque!

If you want to learn what MAY be possible you need to explore the track, but then realise that track conditions and guarantees are not found 'in the wild' but that the track discovered 'limits' can be utilised occasionally.

Unfortunately riding anywhere near the limit on backroads regularly is a life limiter, but exhilarating and weight is weight and once upset there is a lot of mass and force vectors to get back under control.

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barbagris said:

What are you running on the front?. Standard suspension? - are you a "big" fella? - You can very easily run out of clearance on an R3. Not helped by it's long wheelbase and lowish C of G. I've never heard of anybody overheating an E-Max but that too is possible.

I can usually only break traction in roundabouts - 4th? - impressed.

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Pete said:

Hi Pete
I’m a bit of a physics student and appreciate the forces involved. I guess I’m asking how those with worked motors cope in the twisties if a stock motor spins up the rear. The road surface was flat and relatively new hot mix, also noting the busa carried the same line through the corner without issue so I’m discounting greasy spots.

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Boog said:

@Pete Another point I overlooked is when you mention dragging the peg feelers. It does not sound as if you lifted the back tire by rotating on any hard points. I do try hard to keep in my that there is a point of no return once the back tire goes airborne at speed in a curve.
A co-worker back in 2010 lost her husband on a CVO Electraglide this way. When his back tire came back down, the bike bucked him off, (high-side) and he was caught by a sturdy tree trunk. Not trying to be a downer here, just that there is a point where we all accept a certain amount of risk and knowing how to mitigate that risk by riding style and experience is our best hope to come out of a potential mishap.

@scot in exile I'll just say for now that mom was friendlier than the girlfriend was...

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