Transmission issue

[warp9.9]

Can you show me a photo of the later one Scot please ?

Yes my Friend old first

 

[Paul Bryant]

Yes my Friend old first

Ah Ha ! That is an improvement !
Thanks Scot.

 

[v*twin]

The clutch system has all stock components and made sure I installed the plates back same orientation as I had taken them out.The plates were oiled and springs torqued to 10nm .
After installation of pressure plate had checked lifter piece action but I couldn't move the pressure plate back.I had assumed the plates will losen up after rotation and did't want to damage the lifeter piece button.

Is it typically possible to varify clutch action by pulling lifter piece before bolting on tbe clutch engine cover.

I was planning to change engine oil & fiter after few mintues of running engine .Also had ordered a spare clutch cover gasket just in case,looks like will end up using it now.

I took good advice and did some checks before taking clutch over OFF. Not sure what it was hydrostatic tension or oil temperature it was weird after I had engine running for couple of minutes, with multiple starts & stops. CLUTCH WORKS NOW!!!

Took bike for a spin around the block , shifted through gears but engine was operating rough with the P1105 error. Now digging up in the forum realized I have forgotten to connect MAP sensor tubing to throttle body .Think once I fix this I should have motorcycle back on road.
Scott thanks again for all the input and lending me the Cam timing tool.

The only part I need to replace is driveshaft which is badly worn-out .I had purchased 2 driveshaft's on Ebay both listing mentioned 05'onwards classic model's driveshaft but both these are slightly larger diameter spline at the bevel box end. Was the 05 model driveshaft different than later years ,Looking up on Bike Bandit 05' part number is T1270500 and 06' part number is T1270600?

 

[Neville Lush]

It is late now, but typically the cam timing "dot" is stamped on the rear of the cam chain lower gear, where one cannot see it...........

 

[v*twin]

It is late now, but typically the cam timing "dot" is stamped on the rear of the cam chain lower gear, where one cannot see it...........

Used the timing marks on crankshaft gear as Scott had mentioned but didn't notice a dot mark on cam lower chain sprocket gear .

 

[Ishrub]

Ok so the two bearings

Bearing Torsional Damper # T1270805 which is a JESA W2 6305 RS single side seal 25 mm x 62 mm x 17. mm (made in United Kingdom) Seal is non metal
the rear bearing # T3801135 which is a KOYO 6009 RS double sided seals. 45mm x 75 mm x 16mm (made in Japan) Seal is non metal.

The seal # T3600068 made in the UK no name only numbers are 3600068 same as the part number it is a Oil seal 40 MM x 62 mm x 6 mm clockwise rotation.

Hope this helps. remember when you take yours apart the front one is most likely in backwards. Of course with all the metal in the sump you might not be able to tell. So when you install the front bearing the seal goes toward the rear of the bike which is towards the cover. The front bearing gets its oil from the passage that feeds the transmission shaft end bearing hence the seal on one side only. The rear bearing is now grease packed and double sealed where the original was single sealed and oiled by osmosis or shear luck of migration.

A thread mine I know, but I found one for sale NOS with good photos. @warp9.9 can confirm if the bearings are correctly installed. I have bought a few things from this seller and great service and if you make an offer she is likely to accept. To get a starting point for an offer start watching it and you will likely receive an eBay 10% discount offer or so within a week or so.
Price: US $350.00
Approximately AU $538.50
Triumph Rocket III, 2006-18, OEM NOS torsional damper assembly kit, T3990194 | eBay
Triumph Rocket III, 2006-18, NOS OEM torsional damper assembly kit, T3990194 / T3600068
New Old Stock. Excellent unused condition, zero miles.
You are bidding on the items in the photos only, what you see is what you get, no more, no less, so please carefully review all photos before purchasing.
Buyer is responsible for ensuring this is the right part for their bike, so please do your research and ask questions. Returns are welcome, but return shipping is to be paid for by buyer. No international returns, period.

 

[warp9.9]

A thread mine I know, but I found one for sale NOS with good photos. @warp9.9 can confirm if the bearings are correctly installed. I have bought a few things from this seller and great service and if you make an offer she is likely to accept. To get a starting point for an offer start watching it and you will likely receive an eBay 10% discount offer or so within a week or so.
Price: US $350.00
Approximately AU $538.50
Triumph Rocket III, 2006-18, OEM NOS torsional damper assembly kit, T3990194 | eBay
Triumph Rocket III, 2006-18, NOS OEM torsional damper assembly kit, T3990194 / T3600068
New Old Stock. Excellent unused condition, zero miles.
You are bidding on the items in the photos only, what you see is what you get, no more, no less, so please carefully review all photos before purchasing.
Buyer is responsible for ensuring this is the right part for their bike, so please do your research and ask questions. Returns are welcome, but return shipping is to be paid for by buyer. No international returns, period.

I can see the bearings are in correctly. Can't speculat as to why they went thru the hassle of removing it from the cover? Also from what I can see of the helical gear if this is the orignal bearings they were running concentric.

 

[Ishrub]

I can see the bearings are in correctly. Can't speculat as to why they went thru the hassle of removing it from the cover? Also from what I can see of the helical gear if this is the orignal bearings they were running concentric.

IF it is New Old Stock as claimed why would it come already pressed in to the cover which appears to be part of a different parts group? (Seller Notes: “New Old Stock. Excellent unused condition, zero miles.”)
This part number T3990194 is for the Black Case Cover version of the 3 listed according to my Aussie dealer Triumph parts fiche so maybe it came with the black cover which is missing?
> Eng No 336042 - Blk Cvrs; See Technical News 114

There are 3 covers listed with different part numbers and VIN or engine numbers

17	T1260441	T3 CVRO/P SHAFTPAINTE	x1		172.90	> Eng No 242554
17	T1260442	T3 COVER OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		172.90	Roadster Only
17	T1260442	T3 COVER OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		172.90	Eng No 242555 > 574812

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Ref	Part Number	Description	# On Img	# Cart	$ Each	Notes
1	T3990194	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		874.00	> Eng No 336042 - Blk Cvrs; See Technical News 114
1	T3990195	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		874.00	> Eng No 336042 - Slv Cvrs; See Technical News 114
1	T1270800	**Dead ->REFALEX	x1		1008.40	Eng No 336043 >; See Technical News 114
2	T1270870	T3 CIRCLIP	x1		5.60
3	T1270865	T3 CAP COLLET	x1		5.40
4	T1270860	T3 TORSIONAL DAMPER COL	x2		9.50	> Eng No 449436
4	T1270898	T3 COLLETS	x2		9.50	Eng No 449437 >
5	T3990192	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	> Eng No 336042 - Silver Covers; See Technical News 114
5	T3990193	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	> Eng No 336042 - Black Covers; See Technical News 114
5	T3990191	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	Eng No 336043 >; See Technical News 114
6	T1277777	T3 BUSH GEAR	x1		55.80
7	T1270821	T3 GEAR DAMPER 48T H	x1		211.30
8	T1271992	T3 WASHER TORSIONAL DA	x1		18.40
9	T1270840	T3 FOLLOWER TORSIONAL	x1		129.60
10	T1270888	T3 SPRING TORSIONAL DA	x1		27.20
11	T1270815	T3 SHAFT DAMPER THREA	x1		397.50
12	T3990192	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	> Eng No 336042 - Silver Covers; See Technical News 114
12	T3990193	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	> Eng No 336042 - Black Covers; See Technical News 114
12	T3990191	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	Eng No 336043; See Technical News 114
13	T1270886	T3 WASHER SPRING DISC	x1		3.50
14	T1271111	T3 NUT SEAL OUTPUT M	x1		21.10
15	T1270600	T3 SHAFT/UNIVERSAL JOIN	x1		646.50	Rocket III & Classic
15	T1270700	T3 SHAFT/UNIVERSAL JOIN	x1		646.50	Roadster Only
16	T1270500	T3 SPRING DRIVE SHAFT	x1		6.30

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Ref	Part Number	Description	# On Img	# Cart	$ Each	Notes
17	T1260441	T3 CVRO/P SHAFTPAINTE	x1		172.90	> Eng No 242554
17	T1260442	T3 COVER OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		172.90	Roadster Only
17	T1260442	T3 COVER OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		172.90	Eng No 242555 > 574812
18	T3600068	T3 SEAL OIL 40 62 6	x1		14.90
19	T1260184	T3 GASKET OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		22.30
21	T1260222	T3 BEARING RETAINER PLA	x1		9.80

 

[warp9.9]

IF it is New Old Stock as claimed why would it come already pressed in to the cover which appears to be part of a different parts group? (Seller Notes: “New Old Stock. Excellent unused condition, zero miles.”)
This part number T3990194 is for the Black Case Cover version of the 3 listed according to my Aussie dealer Triumph parts fiche so maybe it came with the black cover which is missing?
> Eng No 336042 - Blk Cvrs; See Technical News 114

There are 3 covers listed with different part numbers and VIN or engine numbers

17	T1260441	T3 CVRO/P SHAFTPAINTE	x1		172.90	> Eng No 242554
17	T1260442	T3 COVER OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		172.90	Roadster Only
17	T1260442	T3 COVER OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		172.90	Eng No 242555 > 574812

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Ref	Part Number	Description	# On Img	# Cart	$ Each	Notes
1	T3990194	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		874.00	> Eng No 336042 - Blk Cvrs; See Technical News 114
1	T3990195	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		874.00	> Eng No 336042 - Slv Cvrs; See Technical News 114
1	T1270800	**Dead ->REFALEX	x1		1008.40	Eng No 336043 >; See Technical News 114
2	T1270870	T3 CIRCLIP	x1		5.60
3	T1270865	T3 CAP COLLET	x1		5.40
4	T1270860	T3 TORSIONAL DAMPER COL	x2		9.50	> Eng No 449436
4	T1270898	T3 COLLETS	x2		9.50	Eng No 449437 >
5	T3990192	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	> Eng No 336042 - Silver Covers; See Technical News 114
5	T3990193	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	> Eng No 336042 - Black Covers; See Technical News 114
5	T3990191	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	Eng No 336043 >; See Technical News 114
6	T1277777	T3 BUSH GEAR	x1		55.80
7	T1270821	T3 GEAR DAMPER 48T H	x1		211.30
8	T1271992	T3 WASHER TORSIONAL DA	x1		18.40
9	T1270840	T3 FOLLOWER TORSIONAL	x1		129.60
10	T1270888	T3 SPRING TORSIONAL DA	x1		27.20
11	T1270815	T3 SHAFT DAMPER THREA	x1		397.50
12	T3990192	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	> Eng No 336042 - Silver Covers; See Technical News 114
12	T3990193	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	> Eng No 336042 - Black Covers; See Technical News 114
12	T3990191	T3 KIT TORSIONAL DAMPE	x1		112.90	Eng No 336043; See Technical News 114
13	T1270886	T3 WASHER SPRING DISC	x1		3.50
14	T1271111	T3 NUT SEAL OUTPUT M	x1		21.10
15	T1270600	T3 SHAFT/UNIVERSAL JOIN	x1		646.50	Rocket III & Classic
15	T1270700	T3 SHAFT/UNIVERSAL JOIN	x1		646.50	Roadster Only
16	T1270500	T3 SPRING DRIVE SHAFT	x1		6.30

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Ref	Part Number	Description	# On Img	# Cart	$ Each	Notes
17	T1260441	T3 CVRO/P SHAFTPAINTE	x1		172.90	> Eng No 242554
17	T1260442	T3 COVER OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		172.90	Roadster Only
17	T1260442	T3 COVER OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		172.90	Eng No 242555 > 574812
18	T3600068	T3 SEAL OIL 40 62 6	x1		14.90
19	T1260184	T3 GASKET OUTPUT SHAFT	x1		22.30
21	T1260222	T3 BEARING RETAINER PLA	x1		9.80

I wasn't believing the new old stock figured low mileage. In gearing helucal gears are usually sold mas a matched pair. Not that you would have to. I've sent just the one helical in a complete torsional damper assembly to be a parts donor. Anyway sorry to make you hunt down all the info.

 

[Ishrub]

I wasn't believing the new old stock figured low mileage. In gearing helucal gears are usually sold mas a matched pair. Not that you would have to. I've sent just the one helical in a complete torsional damper assembly to be a parts donor. Anyway sorry to make you hunt down all the info.

All part of the fun of learning