I should fill in the whole story. I am in the process fo buying back my 05 Rocket. I sold it 3 years ago. One of the traits of the bike I remember and didn't like was the heat I used to feel coming up through the seat (mostly when going slow in town during the summer months). I was hoping when I had the seat recovered by Russell Day Long Saddles, it would fix the issue, it didn't. So, while I wait to complete the transaction to return the bike to me, I was thinking about how I might address the problem. I had TORs and cat by-pass put on the bike when I originally purchased the bike. I remember looking at the cat by-pass and thinking there must have been a better way to build it. So, with all that hot exhaust gasses crossing back and forth under the frame and packing its self from the back pressure, I am wondering if that is the source of the heat under the seat. Something like a Jardine system looks like it eliminates a lot of unnessary plumbing under the frame and could lead to a cooler seat. ???????