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Sidecar Flip

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There was some discussion a while ago about the proposed SAE noise standard/enforcement for motorcycles and the ongoing research.

In the January 2010 edition of the American Motorcyclist on page 16, there is an in depth discourse about just that issue and how it will pertain to motorcycles in general.

In part..

A new SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) sound test procedure SAE J2825 'Measurement of exhaust sound pressure levels on stationary on-highway motorcycles, addresses the issue. It's a tool that law enforcement agencies will employ to enforce noise abatement laws already enacted in many communities...and get into your wallet and possibly add points to your operators license with the resultant insurance increase as your risk ratio increases.

I was developed for roadside sound measurement and control of excessively loud motorcycles with significantly modified exhaust systems. According to the author, only motorcycles with very loud motorcycle exhaust would fail the procedure. I can't see that. Read on...

The new procedure sets a decibel limit of 92 DB(A) for all motorcycles at idle. Motorcycles with three or four cylinders (us) have a decibel limit of 100 DB(A) at 5,000 rpm or 75% of maximum rated engine speed, whichever is less, when using what is known as the 'set rpm' test or for a 'swept test' which involves slowly accelerating to the specified rpm.

The 100 DB(A) test is with your ear 20" away from the exhaust pipe, not a sidewalk café, addressing the source of many citizen complaints about motorcycle sound...according to the author.

How to conduct a sound test...
1. Find a clear test site. No sign or wall within 8 feet of the motorcycle.

2. Decide whether you want to use the idle, set rpm or swept test.

3. Have someone hold the motorcycle in the normal riding position with one or both feet on the ground. Or, you can put the motorcycle up on it's center stand (if it has one) or put the front wheel in a restraint to hole the motorcycle vertical. To conduct the idle test, you can put the motorcycle on it's side or center stand without someone sitting on the bike.

4. Set the sound meter for 'A' weighting and slow dynamic response for the idle test. For the swept test the meter has to be in fast dynamic response....Here's the rub....'Hold the sound meter microphone 20" from the exhaust outlet at a 45 degree angle to the normal line of travel of the motorcycle and at the same height as the exhaust outlet.

5. If the motorcycle has more than one exhaust outlet, repeat the test on each side that has an outlet.

6. Take 3 readings to confirm your data.

There has been quite a bit of talk between governmental agencies about the certification procedure and though the author expounds this as a simple test, I can't see it as simple, nor can I see it as anything other than a way for the local Barney Fife to vacuum money from your wallet.

Additionally, the talk has been about certification of exhaust systems to factory stamped or aftermarket certified systems with agency certification.

While I don't condone loud pipes, I don't believe this new standard will do anything to alleviate the obnoxious exhaust. It will, however, alleviate your money from your wallet and possibly (if the Agency Certification) standard is adopted as well, cost you plenty in replacement parts.

All this because HD riders want to make noise. The noisier the HD, the slower it is.

If this becomes law (and I'm reasonably sure it will simply because one, it's a great source of revenue and two, it appeases the citizens), Preds, Jars, Bubs and even TORS will become a thing of the past.

Coming to a local police department near you.......................
 

Obama better take up riding quick!
 
The idea here is to standardize the procedure and the noise levels nation-wide. I think it sucks but at the same time knowing that Barney in the next county or the next state or just across town will not be able to single me out and use his "calibrated ear" to give me a ticket without proving it and documenting it. I don't like obnoziously load pipes but these laws have been coming for a while and have been passed in many places around the country, even Daytona passed one a few years ago. My problem is that our pipes will soon have to have the EPA stamp on them or be illegal. No more TORS etc. Of course those kids with the big pipes on their little jap cars will not be bothered.
 
Well that could suck a big one for my preadators unless I use a lot of dsc's on it which I am ok with good thing I bought the 17 inch can and use the standard stuffing that comes with it. I new ther was a reason why my standard pipes and Tors are hanging on the wall with the empty cat box!!!!!!!

Oh well if thats what it takes to quiet them **** Hardleys down then so be it!!!!!

Merry Christmas Flip
 
Unless your really loud I doubt (and havent seen in my area) many will get pulled over. Its kind of like the cell phone law, if you do it right in front of the cop he has no choice but other than that not much looking going on. So if ya got after market pipes dont go cracking that throttle wide open when the boys are around. Yes there will be casualties and yes there are roadblocks checking for other things that might snag a really loud bike because theyre running straight pipes with no baffles but in the end its the same old story.........silence the squeaky wheel by telling them a law was created to stop this.

mutt
 
My Mad Dogs will probably pass that test as they put out a mellow-noted soft growl. As for the SAE and such regs as their standards may invoke, all I can say is ....
 
interestingly enough the diffuser discs that come with the supertraps , not to mention a variety of end caps available, used on the preds is the only one you mentioned that allows the "volume" to be adjusted to the riders taste and well within the parameters of a stockish system if one desires. just lucky or perhaps thought out.