Mantelpiece Artefacts

Steel said:
Is that all? :p
I could add a second gear, shift dogs, 2 timing chain tensioners, 2 cam shafts, a cam ladder, 6 titanium intake valves, 2 crankshafts, 2 crankcases, and 6 connecting rods. :whitstling:
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Not from my old beasty I hope.
 
R-III-R Turbo said:
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From my experience it appears that Triumph changed the clocks, main harness and GPS in mid 2013 (# 574813 i think). Why; i speculate it was (at least) to do with the GPS fault in early Roadsters.

The GPS change memo stated the changeover procedure is to be used for bikes up to Rocket engine #596480. The GPS change also impacted a rake of other Triumph models. After engine #596481 is seems the new GPS can connect to the new harness.

Not 100% sure but it seems the 2 versions of the main harness for Roadsters are for VIN 482858 to 500140 and 503167+, and the other one does up to 482857 and from 500141 to 503166.

They offer both sets of parts ('10-'13 and '13-present) because you might need a set of clocks to go with your '10-'13 harness and GPS, etc.

The change from what I've seen is a different GPS (looks the same except for the connector - old one was 3 wire, new one is 4 wire). If you have the old harness, you'll need the GPS with "fly lead" which is an adapter cable to mate it to new harnesses. The adapter cable also splices into the primary TPS connectors.
It also requires a few wires to be switched around in the clocks.

But if you're like me and you updated the main harness, the new GPS will connect straight into it without the adapter cable.
And my clocks were already rewired to suit since i had the adapter cable and old harness for a while.

ECU is common afaik, as i've had 2010, March 2013 and 2017 ECUs in my bike with the new clock wiring/old harness/new GPS and adapter cable. The same ECUs (well, don't know about the 2010 lol) work with the new harness etc too

Re the difference in map between old and new Roadsters - this coincides with the harness clock and GPS update, so I think the change is linked to the map differences.
Think since mid 2013 the ECUs have to be unlocked by Triumph software on the bike that they'll be used on.
I sent my March 2013 ECU to rob and it wouldn't work on his bike. The ECU was unlocked on my bike so I think it's mated to it.
I'm working on figuring this one out.
If @Claviger sends me his 2014 ECU all will become known :sneaky:
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Mine is made 12/2009 MY 2010 R3R VIN last 6 digits 432260, Engine Number 3434710
Australian compliance plate - Kmh gauges.

Therefore I think the reference is to Engine Number not VIN, an easy mistake to make for all of us.

2014 Triumph Rocket III Roadster INSTRUMENTS - ROADSTER > 574812 Parts - Best OEM INSTRUMENTS - ROADSTER > 574812 Parts Diagram for 2014 Rocket III Roadster Motorcycles
The cutoff and switch from one version to the next occurred in 2014.

It always sh!ts me how they misuse < and > in ref to VINs/Engine numbers. Yes, I know what they mean but still irks me.

The earlier Triumph Rocket III Roadster pre-2014 Kph one was T2500657 443164 >

The later Kph one T2500662 during 2014
INSTRUMENTS - ROADSTER > 574812


1: SPARES KIT, KPH INSTRUMENTS T2500662 $793.82

1: SPARES KIT, MPH INSTRUMENTS T2500661 $793.82

1: INSTRUMENTS, XJ, KPH T2500657 443164 >; All mkts expt UK, US & CY $761.82

1: INSTRUMENTS, XJ, MPH T2500656 443295 >; UK, US, CY $761.82
 
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After reading that Roadsters cannot be started without the correct instruments and ECU.
Stuff it, I have them both covered now;):rolleyes::

A brand new set of T2500657 Roadster Kmh instruments;

a used set of 2015 Rocket X Kmh instruments - presumably T2500662 with 12500km;

a used 2016 Triumph Rocket 3 III Roadster CDI ECU ECM Engine Control Module ABS T129021; and

a used 2016 Triumph Rocket 3 III Roadster Wiring Harness Loom NO CUTS T2501097.

If I need the later 2014 on ECU, Harness and instruments I will need the GPS changed too according to one who knows @R-III-R Turbo .
The change from what I've seen is a different GPS (looks the same except for the connector - old one was 3 wire, new one is 4 wire). If you have the old harness, you'll need the GPS with "fly lead" which is an adapter cable to mate it to new harnesses. The adapter cable also splices into the primary TPS connectors.
It also requires a few wires to be switched around in the clocks.
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R-III-R Turbo said:
Any pics?

I wonder are you unlucky or do you just thrash that poor bike :roll:
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Sorry no pics.

I think a little of both.

idk said:
Not from my old beasty I hope.
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No sir! She's running better than ever. Just one headlight going out, and the speedo still only works part time. The motor is still solid. :thumbsup:
 
Eddie said the tensioner arm was bent. Same part that was just replaced. He said someone must have over tightened it.
 
Edited: this one belongs to the beat up pulley and torn crank spigot bearing housing - part sheared crankshaft key

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