Ignition Problems

[Blastedbones]

Mouth like a shark...

 

[biker1059]

ST, if you have any accessories on your bike you might consider a fuse block from eastern beaver. I just ordered one so everything I'm running will be coming off the battery instead of the weak ass wiring harness. Follow this link to tdragger's write up.

 

[Blastedbones]

Appropriate plate just now! :shock:

 

[Blastedbones]

Mine's in bits having serious upgrades! :shock: going to be a while longer yet tho....
but:OffTopic:not going to hijack the thread

 

[leigh_m_gardner]

I too appear to have an ignition problem with my 2005 Red Rocker. Sometimes (not all the time) when I turned the key round to on, I get a couple of lights flash on the dials then nothing. Moving the key backwards by a few millimeters engages the full ignition sequence and off we go.

Questions:

(a) Does this issue sound like it can be resolved by resoldering the connections under the ignition barrel?

(b) The ignition connector under the tank - possible source of the problem?

(c) What is the headlight/relay 'fix'? and how do you do it?

Ta

 

[mellow yellow]

Ok finally sorted the ignition problem, was not the ignition switch, was not the connector under the tank, that i've now fooked, well not true the ignition wire has been bypassed. The problem was.... drum roll.....

There is a black wire coming off the + battery terminal main wire, this goes through a connector and turns to a brown wire the otherside. This cable feeds the rectifier/regulator. On close inspection the connector had gone green and powdery and did infact crumble to bits in my hand. I took out the offending connector and replaced it. Hey presto, after giving the bike a good run, it now runs fine, apart from i now seemed to have developed the high idle problem, its not all the time and settles if you pull in the clutch, so not sure if stepper is on its way out or the TPS is, or if its a residual left from the connector problem.

The thing i found hard to fathom with the ignition problem was the fact that when i left the bike a while it would then start and run fine for a few miles. But now i know it was this connector its clear that, the cable was heating up and causing to much resistance in it, not uping the amps so the fuse would blow, just uping the resistance.. So one to look out for if you get similar problems. The connector is under the R/H sidepanel.

 

[leigh_m_gardner]

Initially i was going to 'simply' resolder the connections under the barrel - that was until i attempted to remove it. Others have posted that the fixings were just 'awkward' to remove - but removable with perseverance. Mine (08 plate) however, appear (?) to be the security fixings whose heads are 'snapped off' when deliberately overtightened. I guess it may be a European thing?
I had something similar with the GTR1400's (concours) ECM which on the UK is secured with security screws while others in the USA reported that standard fixings were used.

I'd be interested to know other Captain's findings....

Anyway, mine gets picked up tomorrow by the garage i bought the bike from who claim that they can sort it out under warranty despite no longer being a Triumph dealership...hmmm

On my customrocket I have relocated the ignition unit to the side using the rivco kit - the ignition barrel had those "security" bolts on them, but with a dremmel, they were sorted. I plan to dremmel out the RedRockets one as well to address the ignition problem rather than pay £100 for a new unit from Triumph.

 

[biker1059]

Take the connector block apart and look at the connections, mine had got hot and actually started melting the inside of the connector block. Went to Radio Shack and bypassed the connector block on the one wire(blue and white) coming from the wiring harness. Triumph replaced my ignition switch that went south on me because of the bad connection. Have not had a problem sense. Went the extra step and ordered the headlight relays to take even more load off the connections.

 

[Blastedbones]

Bugger me (not literally) .. after reading posts on wiggling the connector block under the tank and doing the same - mine sprang back to life !! Obviously only a short term fix....

Interesting!! must be the crappy Uk weather thing mebbe.