Bedifferent
Old man on a bike
Oh...I am going to be pissed, but there is a limit to what one person can carry. I can plan for the most likely, but not everything!
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Oh...I am going to be pissed, but there is a limit to what one person can carry. I can plan for the most likely, but not everything!
Bedifferent
Old man on a bike
I forgot to mention an LED flashlight, a damp and dry cloth for cleaning my windshield, bungee cords and a Sig Sauer 380 auto.
cusso ken
Living Legend
Yer go on make us poor defenceless (disarmed) Aussies jealous with your constitutional right to bear arms, in 1968 the Government dragged me off the street for two years and taught me how to shoot , bayonet,and rifle butt stroke to death any one they chose was an enemy of our Nation ,load and fire a howitzer all good useful stuff to a 20 year old boy , now I cannot even legally own a BB Gun without jumping through a lot of hoops ,once again at the whim of the Government.
Bedifferent
Old man on a bike
I feel sorry for you Aussies. How could they just do that?? I don't think the US Government is going to pull that off in my lifetime. With an estimated 52 million American households owning over 260 million guns. Talk about a revolution! I suspect they will keep trying to pick away at our rights one little piece at a time until our right to bear arms is gone as well. We'll be able to own a gun, but you won't be able to buy any ammo for it. My concealed weapons permit is honored by most states...let hope it continues that way.
cr0ft
Living Legend
I do understand a lot of people here love their guns, but statistics clearly show Australia made the right call. There have been no gun massacres of little kids there in a long time, unlike America where they happen bi-weekly. And even in America, people who carry guns are four times more likely to be killed with a gun than people who don't. The problem is that gun owners generally choose to ignore all the statistics and research, because they don't want to know.
Besides, not even in Australia did they ban guns, long guns and even handguns are still legal there, within much more narrow criteria. That includes semi-auto rifles and shotguns, by the way. And (after a quick googling) I found a number that says some 745 000 Australians owned guns as of 2007. They just don't hand them out as free prizes at the fair to any Tom, *****or Harry who wanders by.
Besides, not even in Australia did they ban guns, long guns and even handguns are still legal there, within much more narrow criteria. That includes semi-auto rifles and shotguns, by the way. And (after a quick googling) I found a number that says some 745 000 Australians owned guns as of 2007. They just don't hand them out as free prizes at the fair to any Tom, *****or Harry who wanders by.
cusso ken
Living Legend
An even quicker "googling " will reveal we have a proliferation of Gun crimes ,drive by shooting up of houses and daily woundings of people mostly "know to police", the 1996 Gun Confiscation resulted in 661,000 firearms being handed in and a pistol hand in amnesty a few years later resulted in 50,00 hand guns surrendered at a estimated total cost of $A500 million money, well spent it is debatable
Loonitick
Supercharged
Removing the firearms of law-abiding citizens does nothing to the firearms of the criminal part of the population.
cr0ft
Living Legend
Except that illegal guns cost, what, 3000%? more than legal guns, and they're vastly harder to find in general. Because, you know, they're illegal. And selling them gets you serious jail time. Which means that mentally ill people with zero connections to the underworld would have a massively hard time to get their hands on a weapon if they couldn't just mail-order one in.
That's the same reason drugs are so incredibly expensive - because they're illegal. Most drugs are preposterously simple and cheap to manufacture.
cr0ft
Living Legend
Reducing the amount of weapons is not the same as eliminating them, or eliminating crime. To get rid of almost all crime, you have to remove something much larger than just guns - namely competition and money and go to a cooperation-basis for society. Which is another discussion altogether.
Loonitick
Supercharged
Can't speak for the price, but for availability, not really... Regularly have shady figures offering me all manners of problems I have no desire to get bound up in (drugs, guns, you name it) on the main streets in Oslo! Not even slightly descreetly (had them shouting up the street at me "Hey! You want cocain?"). Problem is nothing gets done about it, and if you do anything yourself your suddenly in a world of fecal matter. (The police, of course, don't have the capacity to deal with these kinds of things. They are, after all, not driving a vehicle slightly too fast)
*reads my posts from today* Man I'm in a bitter mood today Oo
