It does sound like something isn't right, if there was no "shocking improvement" in 1st gear alone, then it's not doing it's job. A stock R3 can handle full throttle from a rolling start in 1st gear with no problem, the same bike with a working GiPro will wheelie or smoke the tire given the same throttle and conditions.
 
It does sound like something isn't right, if there was no "shocking improvement" in 1st gear alone, then it's not doing it's job. A stock R3 can handle full throttle from a rolling start in 1st gear with no problem, the same bike with a working GiPro will wheelie or smoke the tire given the same throttle and conditions.

Not doubting you, but then again, I have been told several times that the R3T is different from the non-tourer in its response to a Gi-Pro. Mine is a tourer: 2009 model, and I see no performance difference whatsoever with the GiPro installed.

CW
 
I keep reading all this back and forth about the GiPro but the question keeps nagging me - isn't the same thing accomplished with removing the secondaries and getting a dyno tune (or changing the secondary table to 100% in TuneECU)? It just seems to me that I'd rather put the money for a GiPro towards some dyno time and remove the secondaries myself.
 
The last time I'm going to say this ... the power is not reduced with the secondaries, it is done with retarding the timing in 1st through 3rd gears. If you can change the timing another way, fine and dandy. GiPro w/ATRE means "Advanced Timing Retard Eliminator". Removing the secondaries will lean the mixture and increase throttle response but will not restore the 7% factory power reduction.

The button on the unit allows you to put it back to factory setting, retard timing in only 1st gear, increased power in all gears and an aggressive setting for all gears. The benefit to that button is if you get caught in the rain somewhere or have bad road conditions, you can pull over and set it to lower power to control wheel slip better.

Maybe $150 is more than someone wants to spend and that's fine, but you can't get an easier/cheaper way to bump up the fun along with an easy to read gear position indicator anywhere else. It's easy to install, easy to read and more fun than a barrel of monkeys. A PCIII or changing the secondaries with TuneECU and dyno tuning will increase overall power, but the timing will still be retarded in low gears unless something is done about either tricking the bike or changing the ignition timing tables.
 
Thanks for the info Hellfire, it's because of people like you that make this forum so great! Just ordered one but I'm still going to dig around a bit, I'm a tech guy who operates under the premise that there's always a way around these things. Time to break out the hacking tools on the ECU, maybe ATRE is a feature that can be added into TuneECU or something. I'll let everyone know if I manage to figure something out.
 
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