Barbagris,
What does your pre and post install dyno report look like ?
The reason I went for the Autotune is simply there are no dynos near me. And I'm after smooth delivery and lower consumption rather than POWER. If I wanted POWER - I'd have called Bob Carpenter.
The thing I like about the AFR Plus is I can adjust it whenever wherever I want or not. It too can be "set it and forget it". Having the ability to make the changes right here right now is very convenient. No computer or dyno needed. This is the next generation product simplified, not old stuff. Keep in mind, Mr. Dobeck invented the Power Commander.
I've seen the new AFR Dobeck ad's - but like I said - no idea how it is in action. I happen to be resistant to having things on bikes that can be viewed and changed on the fly - it tends to distract. I'd rather LOG what happens and analyse it - maybe alter it later.
From what I am told the Power Commander V with AT is pre set to bring the AFR as close as possible to maintain a ratio of 13.3/1 at all times. That isn't the best AFR for every situation. With AFR Plus I can set 3 different zones with different AFR settings. The unit can also be set to a switch point of where the zone changes occur. The throttle position and load requirements determine where the switch point settings kicks in. You can set them where you want them. I like that. I can change all of these settings to anything I want with just a touch of a button on the AFR read out gauge the unit comes with. The gauge then tells me what zone I'm in and what the current AFR is. I like all this even more.
Dobeck Performance has set the price point for the AFR Plus at $325. They offer many types of discounts and can get the price down to $250 or less with those discounts.
I don't know who told you that about the PCV AFR values. But it's bollocks. True, some of the AFR tables that Dynojet supply are set silly rich - but you can change them. Hanso's set of tables are excellent. Nowhere near as rich.
Mine is set so I have a different set of AFR tables for each gear. I have 14.5 in some of the cells. You set target AFR's for variations of RPM and TPS. Increments of every change of 250rpm and about 10 or so TPS positions. The advantage of this is that if you find you have one spot that's either oddly rich or weak (and many engines have one or more of these odd spots) - you can change that one.
It took me a while to take a dive inside the ECU mapping - but once understood Thanks to Tom of TuneECU - it gives far more control.
I love carb's (and would in many respects prefer to run on carb's) but even I have to admit that ECU fuel tables give far more control. And I just don't see the point of applying carb tuning mentality to EFI.
The load algorithm in DoBeck's gear is his "secret". I have a certain level of distrust (borne of having been a professional technical smoke screen maker) of secrets. I don't say it's bad or wrong - I just don't have the details. And I fully respect Mr Dobecks right to keep his secret - well secret.
Price points only matter if the products are the same - imo.
I've just changed some of the AFR values in the lower gears as per Hansos V2 values. Left top as a slightly leaner cruising gear. I deliberately use the secondary butterflies to smooth out delivery in the lower gears too.
A feature (that I don't use) on the PCV is that you can store two sets of maps - switch-able on the fly. Using map/gear that's 10 maps. So you can have a normal running set of maps - using Autotune. And a monster richer one for mad 5 minutes.
Chris