Weight loss - really?

tgessner

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Rocket 3R
Admittedly, the Rocket 3 does not lean itself toward tuning measure involving weight reduction. On the other hand, one of the first measures I am taking with my lightweight builds (The T509 Speed Triple Build, if anyone is interested in an example), is to replace the stock battery with a lightweight lifepo battery. That must be the cheapest way to lose several kgs of weight on any bike.

Would that not be pointless on a bike with a curb weight of 320kg? I thought so - until I removed the stock battery from the bike for winter: The things weighs shocking 6.2kg! I quickly decided to make the usual swap for a Shido lithium battery, which weighs about 1.2kg. A five kg weight save is not a small amount on any bike, I would say (add to that the rider's effort to match the five kg weight loss).

Why would anybody try to shed weight from a cruiser motorcycle? My answer would be: Because the R3r is not a cruiser, but a very capable roadster that does much better on alpine roads and passes than I hoped it would.


 
I wanted to ask you a couple of questions. Did you have to change your battery tender to accommodate the new battery ? I live in a
Climate that could have quite cold spring mornings and from what I understand lithium batteries don’t provide optimal cranking power when they are cold. Let me know what your experiences are as this is a big win in weight savings alone obviously.
 
I removed windshield, bags, brackets, hitch, passenger floor boards and a few misc things from my Touring, 106 lbs!
 
Yes, the lithum battery requires a different type of charger that charges with a maximum current of 15V. You cannot use a charger for standard batteries.
Starting in cold weather is not a forte of lithium batteries. What does help though, is switching the ignition on and waiting a few seconds before hitting the starter button.
So far, my experience with lithium batteries has been mostly positive, looking back at six or seven bikes I have used them on.
 

Dankeschön! Looking forward to visiting Germany again one day when the world returns to normal.
 
I have tryied lithium battery and I quickly return to lead battery . I live in the North of France and when you are below 10°C
Lithium is a pain in your arse ! The trick to turn contact on is not very usefull There is 2 cases . one , you try to start but
not enought currant and your battery is empty . Case 2 you put on the lights and wait for the battery to warm up a little
then you start the starter and , phock the battery is empty ! Unless you check the tension with a voltmeter you never succeed
to be at the good battery temperature !
But if you like russian roulette , take the precaution to insulate thermically your lithium battery during winter !
 
Weight loss?...i recently had the Cat box removed on my GT...we weighed it and it was 13kg!...The boombox we put back on was about 6kg so a 7kg loss of weight was achieved. In the racing world, 1 kg of weight removed is equivalent to 1hp gained.
 
My trials with a Lithium battery concluded they are useless on a R3T in cold weather. I ride year round with temperatures down to 0F (-18C). The Lithium battery I used had 710LCA but those are only available 10 degrees above freezing. Warming the battery for several minutes was useless as well.

I wet back to an AGM battery that has worked well for two winters now.

Saving weight is not important to me, riding the bike is.
 
Weight loss?...i recently had the Cat box removed on my GT...we weighed it and it was 13kg!...The boombox we put back on was about 6kg so a 7kg loss of weight was achieved. In the racing world, 1 kg of weight removed is equivalent to 1hp gained.
That is unfortunately not an option here in Germany. Each vehicle needs to pass the bi-annual mandatory emission test remain be road legal. Tampering with the exhaust is a big no-no here. The Rocket 3 passes the Euro 5 regulations. This means that any legal aftermarket exhaust would need to match this criteria. This pretty much kills the exhaust aftermarket here in Europe.