Dyno Results

[Gkiller]

Got my 2006 Classic dyno'd this morning, and was somewhat disappointed...
Here's my setup:
CAT Delete
Triumph TORS
NO air intake mods
TuneECU mapped with Secondaries open 100% and "I" tables copied over
PCIII-USB

When he ran base dyno, results were 123 hp and 132 torque; said A/F mixture was "awful" all along the RPM range, with "hole" around 2200 rpm. He pulled up another Triumph that he had dyno'd last year, and HP was 20 higher, but he did not have in his notes any additional mods such as intake or other performance mods.

He re-mapped, smoothed out the A/F, and ended up at 128HP and 135 Torque.

Now...my intent was not to squeeze every bit of HP out of the bike as possible. Rather, I wanted to make sure the bike was properly tuned, correct A/F mix, eliminate decel pop, and correct aforementioned flat spot in the 2200 rpm range.

The decel pop is now non-existent, the flat spot is gone, and acceleration and ride is very smooth. Should I have expected more HP given the mods and TuneEcu changes? I have read where many Rockets are in the 140-150 HP range...but with Triple K/N's and other performance enhancements...
Does installing the 3x K/N make that big of a difference (15-20 hp)?

 

[pete.triumph]

Got my 2006 Classic dyno'd this morning, and was somewhat disappointed...
Here's my setup:
CAT Delete
Triumph TORS
NO air intake mods
TuneECU mapped with Secondaries open 100% and "I" tables copied over
PCIII-USB

When he ran base dyno, results were 123 hp and 132 torque; said A/F mixture was "awful" all along the RPM range, with "hole" around 2200 rpm. He pulled up another Triumph that he had dyno'd last year, and HP was 20 higher, but he did not have in his notes any additional mods such as intake or other performance mods.

He re-mapped, smoothed out the A/F, and ended up at 128HP and 135 Torque.

Now...my intent was not to squeeze every bit of HP out of the bike as possible. Rather, I wanted to make sure the bike was properly tuned, correct A/F mix, eliminate decel pop, and correct aforementioned flat spot in the 2200 rpm range.

The decel pop is now non-existent, the flat spot is gone, and acceleration and ride is very smooth. Should I have expected more HP given the mods and TuneEcu changes? I have read where many Rockets are in the 140-150 HP range...but with Triple K/N's and other performance enhancements...
Does installing the 3x K/N make that big of a difference (15-20 hp)?

I have the same year and model r3 as you I had mine dyno tune with pc3 a few weeks a go , got similar numbers b4 123 hp and 131.8 torques, after dyno 125hp and 140.3 torques had a good increase 2500 - 4000 rpm

 

[pete.triumph]

here is my dyno up load I asked my tuner if fitting triple k&n would make much difference he said that all I would get was about 5 to 10 hp, it induction is biggest restriction like cams ext, I feel better now after see all those other big numbers

 

[Gkiller]

Do you have any performance mods (K/N's, exhaust, etc) or just stock?

I also had a very slight increase in torque around the same range as you; for the most part, the HP and Torque results were very similar (no spikes or lows) between the pre-and-post mapping runs. The A/F is where the biggest changes were made...before the re-map, the A/F line looked like rolling hills...up and down....
After the re-map very steady and smooth with only very minimal variations from the optimal dotted line.

 

[pete.triumph]

I just have under seat k&n filter and stanintune exhaust ( australian made) claim to increase mid range torque

 

[Gkiller]

Got my 2006 Classic dyno'd this morning, and was somewhat disappointed...
Here's my setup:
CAT Delete
Triumph TORS
NO air intake mods
TuneECU mapped with Secondaries open 100% and "I" tables copied over
PCIII-USB

When he ran base dyno, results were 123 hp and 132 torque; said A/F mixture was "awful" all along the RPM range, with "hole" around 2200 rpm. He pulled up another Triumph that he had dyno'd last year, and HP was 20 higher, but he did not have in his notes any additional mods such as intake or other performance mods.

He re-mapped, smoothed out the A/F, and ended up at 128HP and 135 Torque.

Now...my intent was not to squeeze every bit of HP out of the bike as possible. Rather, I wanted to make sure the bike was properly tuned, correct A/F mix, eliminate decel pop, and correct aforementioned flat spot in the 2200 rpm range.

The decel pop is now non-existent, the flat spot is gone, and acceleration and ride is very smooth. Should I have expected more HP given the mods and TuneEcu changes? I have read where many Rockets are in the 140-150 HP range...but with Triple K/N's and other performance enhancements...
Does installing the 3x K/N make that big of a difference (15-20 hp)?

Here's the Dyno printout...

 

[HellFire]

All engine performance enhancements begin and end with airflow in and out. You can alter fuel and timing till the cows come home but unless you allow a motor to breathe in and out all the air it can handle, you won't get it's full potential.

Factory builds restrict intake and exhaust flow to whatever extent it takes to tame it and make it civilized. Letting an engine breathe makes noise, an underseat or undertank air filter limits and calms the noise but costs power ... you can't have both.

My setup is similar in that I have TOR's, cat eliminate and PCIII ... the main difference is that I'm running triple filters. I have some other things like a GiPro for low gear performance but those don't affect overall power. My dyno numbers are both in the high 150's.

If you are happy with it, leave it the way it is ... if you want more it will take modification to the intake in the form of individual filters for each throttle-body.

 

[HansO]

Got my 2006 Classic dyno'd this morning, and was somewhat disappointed...
Here's my setup:
CAT Delete
Triumph TORS
NO air intake mods
TuneECU mapped with Secondaries open 100% and "I" tables copied over
PCIII-USB

When he ran base dyno, results were 123 hp and 132 torque; said A/F mixture was "awful" all along the RPM range, with "hole" around 2200 rpm. He pulled up another Triumph that he had dyno'd last year, and HP was 20 higher, but he did not have in his notes any additional mods such as intake or other performance mods.

He re-mapped, smoothed out the A/F, and ended up at 128HP and 135 Torque.

Now...my intent was not to squeeze every bit of HP out of the bike as possible. Rather, I wanted to make sure the bike was properly tuned, correct A/F mix, eliminate decel pop, and correct aforementioned flat spot in the 2200 rpm range.

The decel pop is now non-existent, the flat spot is gone, and acceleration and ride is very smooth. Should I have expected more HP given the mods and TuneEcu changes? I have read where many Rockets are in the 140-150 HP range...but with Triple K/N's and other performance enhancements...
Does installing the 3x K/N make that big of a difference (15-20 hp)?

in short yup, you got to let it in to get it out, the inlet tract is so restricted the bike just can't breathe triumph did this on purpose to hold back the power (you might like to try and see how far you can run breathing only thru a straw) if down the track you can get hold of a better set of header(unfortunitly the guy who made mine has just recently announce his retirement from making them) as I have done you will see even more improvement, the header also restricts the flow. The triple K&N's with the two extra small ones from Flip are a must to even start getting power out but be warned the first ime you open it up or even take of you don't end up on your arse, big difference and gut wrenching torque of the bottom will be your reward

 

[Gkiller]

All engine performance enhancements begin and end with airflow in and out. You can alter fuel and timing till the cows come home but unless you allow a motor to breathe in and out all the air it can handle, you won't get it's full potential.

Factory builds restrict intake and exhaust flow to whatever extent it takes to tame it and make it civilized. Letting an engine breathe makes noise, an underseat or undertank air filter limits and calms the noise but costs power ... you can't have both.

My setup is similar in that I have TOR's, cat eliminate and PCIII ... the main difference is that I'm running triple filters. I have some other things like a GiPro for low gear performance but those don't affect overall power. My dyno numbers are both in the high 150's.

If you are happy with it, leave it the way it is ... if you want more it will take modification to the intake in the form of individual filters for each throttle-body.[/QUOTE

Thanks HellFire...I've gone back and forth on the Triples, but decided to let things ride for now and perhaps make that a winter project. I was just curious if the K/N's could effect HP that drastically...meaning 20+ HP just by adding the Trips.

The bike runs beautifully...great response, quick throttle, and MEAN roll-on. I put 250 miles on her yesterday with a buddy on his Yamaha Venture...and at 80 mph I could roll the throttle just slightly and hit 105 in a matter of a few seconds...with much more throttle to go. GOTTA LOVE IT!

 

[zimtuff]

Dyno results are not all that helpfull when you compare the results from one dyno to another.
Its all about the gain from your base measurement.