Dyno of Stock bike with R3R_slip Tune

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

What tune did PowerTripp give you for the bike ? Will you share ?


FYI: Steve: I have hit 140 in 4th gear with my Rocket.

 

[Claviger]

Last map on the page. The only changes I have made are: Speed limiter set to 299kph, redline raised to 6800, Fan Turn on set to 100c from 103, and raise idle to 900 RPM.

 

[Claviger]

Results from the second dyno session are in. Print-outs and video coming later today.The print out is in SAE instead of STD, but the STD numbers are: 129.5whp, 147.5lb-ft.

I don't think there is much more to be had in the tune as the bike sits right now, maybe +/- 1-3 hp/lb-ft, buy really, its pretty much there I think.

When my K&N 2780s get here I'll get it dialed in and post results, it will be the only hardware change made when I test, and I will keep using the same shop/same dyno so numbers will be comparable.

 

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

Thanks for the reports. Keep them coming. I have to mention that your fuel ratio is really erratic. Your fuel line should be flatter and smooth and not such a wave. Have you asked your tuner why it is happening ? May I suggest one of the up-grade TuneECU tunes we have available on the forum and maybe even a Dobeck Performance AFR Plus. Look into it. I love my Dobeck.

 

[Claviger]

I am my own tuner Even if there were a guy on Oahu who knew more than what they read from the PR department about triumphs, I would NEVER let them tune my bike. Hawaiian work ethics are absolutely atrocious, everything is "it'll work, it's close enough", no pride in craftsmanship at all, I'd prefer Chinese made products before Hawaiian, from a quality point of view, if that tells you anything.

I am suspicious of the 2nd shops o2 sensor. If you look at the first dyno, it was not flat, but it was decent and it actually had a relationship to the torque curve. The second shop just shows it kind of all over the place, not sure if it was too far in / not far enough in the tail pipe, if its not calibrated, if it is accurate or what not. The big difference in the WINPEP7 setup is the 1st shop had smoothing at zero, second shop had it set at 5, same model Dynojet, same facility setups, just different WINPEP7 configurations. Riding it, the power feels perfectly linear, representative of the 1st dyno, not high power but with surges like the second dyno suggests.

Ill be buying TuneBoy, and an LC2 fairly soon so I can actually tune on the street and just go to the dyno to get power measurements done. Far better than buying a PC5, having some monkey "auto-tune" on the dyno, copying the table into TuneECU and living with "close enough"!

PS: My K&N 2780s came in today (Thanks Budman!). Just need my Ozclaw to arrive and it'll be time for a bit of enrichment of the map and another trip to the dyno.

 

[Claviger]

2780s have been removed following a dyno run which reflected a loss of 20lbft and no gain up top. They have been shelved until my CES pipes are installed.

Doing my lm-2 street tuning now and will visit the dyno once i have it dialed in. First data logging session showed some interesting results, mainly that the L tables as provided by Power_Trip are very close to perfect. Cruise was in the 14.3:1-15.3:1 range and idle was a nice stable 14:1. This is with the O2 sensor turned off in the tune so it cant throw off my wideband logging.

The F tables are somewhat off, some areas quite rich, in the 10.x to 1 area. Most of it was in the low 12s with some spots around 14. There is room to improve it for sure. Got a half hour of logging in today and a revision of the base tune done. When I am satisfied that under high load conditions the afrs stay in the 13:1 area Ill post it up for Roadster owners with CAN bus bikes to use.

Also confirmed that the O2 sensor at the shop above is WAY out of calibration to the point I am going to log the next dyno session on the lm-2 so I can show them how bad it is.

 

[Claviger]

Well, I made significant headway in the tuning department today. I was wondering why my torque graph looked like an ocean top, all wavy n ****e. Started doing some close analysis of timing advance vs rpm and sure enough, the terribad timing table in the R3R_Slip tune is to blame. Honestly I think the file got corrupted or Wayne never got around to finishing the timing table.

Going to start fresh(ish) with a composite tune I have built. Tweaked timing a bit, a little more advanced than the 20355 tune floating around, but I think it is a much better ignition table.

Fueling, L tables, really dead nuts, done messing with them for now, cruises nicely at ~15:1 above 3000 RPM and low throttle opening, dropping down to 13:1 around 2000 RPM low throttle. I like this because it will keep the low throttle response snapy and save fuel on the freeway.

F Tables, well, R3R_slip is a little bit rich at WOT, otherwise 4-70% throttle seems fairly close. There is nowhere on Oahu I can go from 30mph to 140mph in 4th gear except Freeways, that would be all fine and dandy except for all the oblivious cages in the way. Instead I am forced to do 3rd gear pulls from about 30-105, unfortunately(lol) that doesn't take very long, so the tuning value is diminished.