dark side? abs friendly

So I took the rear wheel off last night to make sure everything is in order, the mech did a fine job, even lubed the crap out of everything, reason why I took it off, to much run off lube everywhere. I noticed that the abs wheel was bend to sh1t... I straighten it our and put everything back together and this morning the abs light stayed off...

So the Cooper CS4 225/55-R16 is good as far as abs goes.
 
The following is what I answered you in another recent post regarding car tire 225/55-16.

Looks to me to be within an inch the same diameter as an OEM 240/50R16.
Should not affect your ABS assuming you still are running the OEM front size of 150/80R17.
I did the calcs awhile ago, but as I remember the circumference difference needs to exceed 8% of OEM for the ABS to stop functioning. I run a slightly larger rear Excedra Max at 240/55R16 and with a 130 front the ABS stopped functioning. I can get away with a 140 up front and retain ABS function.
What air pressure you recommend for 225/55-16 on the rocket?
 
I'm interested in how he answers that. I know what I'd say.......

Richard,
being that you are mathematically inclined, I would be willing to bet that you can come up with a scale for this issue if you could set aside any and all predisposed dispositions on riding dark-side.
Up for the challenge or just to prejudice?
 
Richard,
being that you are mathematically inclined, I would be willing to bet that you can come up with a scale for this issue if you could set aside any and all predisposed dispositions on riding dark-side.
Up for the challenge or just to prejudice?

Well, a 225/55-16 has a rolling circumference only about 1.2% greater than your stock Metz or Avon 240/50-16 and about 2.5% less than the Bridgestone Exedra Max 240/55-16. In other words, the difference is negligible while the tyres are upright and rolling on their full circumference.

However, because an MT has a curved cross section, the sidewall height is about 2-2.5 inches less than an equivalent sized car tyre. This means that when it leans over in corners, the actual rolling circumference of the MT drops markedly - by about a foot (in fact, if the motorcycle tyre were to run fully on the very outside corner of the tread, it would be closer to 18 inches less). Fortunately, because the front tyre is similarly curved the relative circumferences of the two tyres will be more or less constant within a few %.

It's difficult to estimate how much a CT distorts when it leans, and it will depend on inflation levels, but I doubt the sidewall squashes down by 2-2.5" (unless it's dangerously underinflated) so it would be reasonable to assume that its rolling circumference in a corner would remain closer to what it would be when vertical, therefore throwing the relationship between front and rear out significantly in corners. I would imagine this could interfere with the ABS if the tyre sizes are too far from stock size. With the 225 rear, a 140 front would JUST be within reasonable bounds. Personally, if you're a fastish rider and like to push the bike through corners, I'd recommend sticking with a 150 unless you're going to also run a lower profile rear.

On the plus side, with a car tyre on the back, when cornering the rear can lift relative to the front somewhere approaching 2 inches so this could make the turn in feel more responsive, once you got used to the transitions and the constantly changing geometry.

The above effects may in reality not be all that noticeable to the rider but I'd wager the ABS is more sensitive. I don't believe I could say with certainty which tyre sizes would be OK, but it's pretty obvious that if you were to run a 245 CT on the back, you'd be more likely to have problems with ABS and most likely have to stick to a 150 front.

All in all, it still seems an odd thing to do to an otherwise precision piece of machinery. You can call that prejudice if you like but it's really just mathematics - and a preference not to make my Rocket any more difficult to ride than it was designed to be. :D
 
Well, a 225/55-16 has a rolling circumference only about 1.2% greater than your stock Metz or Avon 240/50-16 and about 2.5% less than the Bridgestone Exedra Max 240/55-16. In other words, the difference is negligible while the tyres are upright and rolling on their full circumference.

However, because an MT has a curved cross section, the sidewall height is about 2-2.5 inches less than an equivalent sized car tyre. This means that when it leans over in corners, the actual rolling circumference of the MT drops markedly - by about a foot (in fact, if the motorcycle tyre were to run fully on the very outside corner of the tread, it would be closer to 18 inches less). Fortunately, because the front tyre is similarly curved the relative circumferences of the two tyres will be more or less constant within a few %.

It's difficult to estimate how much a CT distorts when it leans, and it will depend on inflation levels, but I doubt the sidewall squashes down by 2-2.5" (unless it's dangerously underinflated) so it would be reasonable to assume that its rolling circumference in a corner would remain closer to what it would be when vertical, therefore throwing the relationship between front and rear out significantly in corners. I would imagine this could interfere with the ABS if the tyre sizes are too far from stock size. With the 225 rear, a 140 front would JUST be within reasonable bounds. Personally, if you're a fastish rider and like to push the bike through corners, I'd recommend sticking with a 150 unless you're going to also run a lower profile rear.

On the plus side, with a car tyre on the back, when cornering the rear can lift relative to the front somewhere approaching 2 inches so this could make the turn in feel more responsive, once you got used to the transitions and the constantly changing geometry.

The above effects may in reality not be all that noticeable to the rider but I'd wager the ABS is more sensitive. I don't believe I could say with certainty which tyre sizes would be OK, but it's pretty obvious that if you were to run a 245 CT on the back, you'd be more likely to have problems with ABS and most likely have to stick to a 150 front.

All in all, it still seems an odd thing to do to an otherwise precision piece of machinery. You can call that prejudice if you like but it's really just mathematics - and a preference not to make my Rocket any more difficult to ride than it was designed to be. :D

That's not what I was talking about, mate!
 
I like the 245/50/16 federal 595 hangs on like sh!t to a blanket and good in All conditions also good mileage.
It is almost identical size to stock
Mate pulled another bit of metal out of my soft gooey bike tire today , thats 3 in 6 weeks , i cant afford to be replacing bike tires that often so im going to go darkside , the tire you have quoted above is that ok for ABS bike ? I have a motorcycle tire shop up the road that agreed to fit it for $60 , apparently they want me to sign a waiver or some sheet.
 
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