'08's and Tuneboys?

I don't know how much you are paying per dyno run, but it might be cheaper in the longer run to hook up a PCIII and do a dyno tune, unhook it when you are done, then import the PCIII map into your tuneboy map and load the new map into your bike. That would take a lot of guess work out of it and maximize power while producing a smooth tune.

I just have this gnawing feeling that the holy grail of R3 performance is to over-ride the
Triumph program and get those secondaries to open when I say open, deliver a tad bit more fuel than is necessary and set the timing where it needs to be to get the fuel burned without detonation. Am I so wrong to look for the right way to accomplish this? I certainly like the idea behind the PCIII .... but that still does not fix the secondary problem. P-since you popped in here maybe you will read this and give me your thoughts .... do I need to look at both the tune and the PC? (meaning tuneboy and power commander) Will it inevitably require both to get the job done? I'm not looking to set the HP bar as high as it will go, just as high as it should be without the goofy "save us from ourselves" detuning from the factory. Perhaps I'm just old and miss the days when the cable pulled open the carb when I said so. Will it take both to accomplish those three basic things? Maybe I should just start spending $ and find out. what are your thoughts? (I know this is a weird place to put this, but what the hell. Sorry for turning your ad into a discussion) (I would put an icon here, but there isn't one pulling his hair out)

Pig9r, I left you a question in the classifieds under the PCiii. (I know, silly place ... but again ... what the hell) I like your idea about using both the PCIII and tuneboy. I have limited oportunities to access a good tuner with a dyno for bikes. I'll check both threads for your thoughts. You are working with an R3t right? I know there is alot of room for improvement on the classics and touring models vs the R3's. I just hate the idea that the secondaries don't open all the way without major changes, what do you think?

If I were in your shoes, I would start out with the Tuneboy. Then try loading a few of the canned Tuneboy tunes. If you are happy with the results then stop there. Otherwise the next step would be either to find a tuner that will tune with Tuneboy (which is unlikely because it is a tedious process and would cost $$$$) or hook up a PCIII then go to your local dynojet tuner get a dyno tune (take about 1 hour and should cost between $200 to $300). The dynojet dyno and PCIII will create a fuel map real time that will give a target a/f ratio and hopefully optimum performance. Then you remove the PCIII, import the new PCIII map into the tuneboy tune you had loaded in the bike then reload that tune in the bike. That way you have the best of both worlds, Tuneboy's total control over the ECU and PCIII's ablility to come up with a good fuel map. I rent out my PCIII to others just for that purpose. Dyno tuning with the PCIII didn't gain me a whole lot more HP but the fuel map was a lot smoother.

And no I don't have a R3T, I have a 06 Classic. But the principle is the same for both bikes.

I went ahead and moved your post in the classifieds here to this thread.

Good move, I was hoping it wouldn't get tossed as spam, thanks.
Why did they have to make things so **** complicated? After changing the airflow (intake and exhaust) on my Cooper, it was just a matter of plugging in a laptop while on the dyno, tinkering with the parameters for a couple hours and presto. Nothing huge, of course it already had a supercharger, but it went from 164bhp (factory numbers, didn't check it before like a moron) to 225bhp at the wheels. It blows me away that I can't just do the same with the bike.
My dealer has a dyno but has been little help in the tuning dept. I think they don't have the market for it with Triumphs, they seem to be more into Suzuki and gave me the impression that things like this just aren't done with Triumphs. I'm in the Delaware/Philly area, anyone know a place nearby you can recomend? I was also thinking that perhaps if someone had already gone through this with an R3 that the programs would already exist. I'm going to take your advice, it deffinately makes the most sense to me. I believe the most important thing is to get that Triumph tune out and replaced so those secondaries open all the way (that makes me crazy every time I think about them purposely keeping them restricted), might as well have a restrictor plate with that kind of thinking. I'll go back and read the tune thread from the beginning too, just so I understand the tuneboy and PCIII better.
Thanks again, IM me dirrectly if you have any more suggestions.

Hellfire, there are plenty of tunes out there. And they will get you in the ballpark, but there are so many other factors that come into play, altitude, grade of gas, air fuel meter accurarcy of dyno, etc. And like I said you may be perfectly fine and happy with one of the tunes out there. I rode for over a year with a slightly modified tune created by Tuneboy before I went the PCIII plus Tuneboy route.

If your dealer does tuning with a PCIII then there is no difference between the Rocket and any other bike. I take mine to a Suzuki dealer to have it tuned because my dealer doesn't have a dyno.

The great thing and biggest problem with Tuneboy is that you have access to all of the fuel maps, (two for each cylinder), and it is a very long and tedious process to dyno tune because you have to make a change, load it, do a dyno run, shut the bike off, make the change, load it and repeat. Add on to that the learning curve for a dyno tuner to get familiar with Tuneboy. While the PCIII makes the changes real time while the bike is on the dyno.

Go to the Tuneboy site and download the software and some of the Rocket's tunes. It can be done for free. It is the cable and the software key to unlock your specific ECU that you pay for. That will get you up to speed quicker than anything else.