Troubles and havent even had first ride

[karl rashleigh]

Brilliant to see she's running now. Do you put it down to the hoses either being old or wrongly connected then?

Brilliant to see she's running now. Do you put it down to the hoses either being old or wrongly connected then?

i am really hoping it wasnt the hoses conected wrongly, i would be in the dog house for awhile. i will test them at a later date when noone is watching LOL

 

[DEcosse]

i am really hoping it wasnt the hoses conected wrongly...

It would not be that
Of the two hoses, one is the scupper drain (drains overfilled fuel or rain-water that collects in the filler neck) and the other is the vent (which return air to the tank to make up for used fuel);
the vent hose is connected to a roll-over valve that closes if bike is on its side, so fuel does not spill from that line;
even if reversed it would not cause an issue other than, if fuel overfill (or collected water) went down the hose into the roll-over valve, it would not pass in that direction. On the other line the vent would simply be open anyway.
The other scenario with wrong connection would possibly be the vent hose/valve connected reversed; but even in that scenario it would not cut immediately; a vacuum would occur in the tank as no make-up air could flow into the head-space; but this would take quite a bit of running time to cause any issue.

I believe the issues were all fuel delivery related
1. The pump itself along with the fuel filter
2: that created 'some' pressure that was enough to have injectors flow,but at least one injector had reduced flow and additionally the fuel rail was full of crap;
3. After this engine would fire but not run cleanly - The fuel pressure was inadequate, caused by the deteriorated hoses created pressure leaks - after these hoses were replaced/connection secure pressure returned which then geerated the correct fuel mass to run.

Red Herrings: TPS; Map; MAP sensor; Fuel Tank Drain/Vent hoses

 

[Mittzy]

It would not be that
Of the two hoses, one is the scupper drain (drains overfilled fuel or rain-water that collects in the filler neck) and the other is the vent (which return air to the tank to make up for used fuel);
the vent hose is connected to a roll-over valve that closes if bike is on its side, so fuel does not spill from that line;
even if reversed it would not cause an issue other than, if fuel overfill (or collected water) went down the hose into the roll-over valve, it would not pass in that direction. On the other line the vent would simply be open anyway.
The other scenario with wrong connection would possibly be the vent hose/valve connected reversed; but even in that scenario it would not cut immediately; a vacuum would occur in the tank as no make-up air could flow into the head-space; but this would take quite a bit of running time to cause any issue.

I believe the issues were all fuel delivery related
1. The pump itself along with the fuel filter
2: that created 'some' pressure that was enough to have injectors flow,but at least one injector had reduced flow and additionally the fuel rail was full of crap;
3. After this engine would fire but not run cleanly - The fuel pressure was inadequate, caused by the deteriorated hoses created pressure leaks - after these hoses were replaced/connection secure pressure returned which then geerated the correct fuel mass to run.

Red Herrings: TPS; Map; MAP sensor; Fuel Tank Drain/Vent hoses

What he said.

 

[Sensfan]

What he said.

2nd that.....you definitely came to the right site for information to get your ride going...enjoy the fruits of your labor.

 

[karl rashleigh]

hey guys, im back ummm got another little issue. bike starts first kick idles perfectly frontlights low and high beam not working fuse seems fine, also when i go for a ride when i clutch to change gears it stalls. is this the clutch sensor? i stated the bike while not on it and when i put it in first it died the same way when riding down the road. i will just add that if im using a bit of throttle it doesnt stall its only when i let it go to idle while the clutch is in.

 

[Lostride]

hey guys, im back ummm got another little issue. bike starts first kick idles perfectly frontlights low and high beam not working fuse seems fine, also when i go for a ride when i clutch to change gears it stalls. is this the clutch sensor? i stated the bike while not on it and when i put it in first it died the same way when riding down the road.

side stand up properly?

 

[karl rashleigh]

side stand up properly?

yeah that was my first check

 

[Scorp]

And so the next exciting installment of Rocket Mania begins.

 

[Mittzy]

Faulty stand switch?

 

[karl rashleigh]

Faulty stand switch?

yeah i will have to have a look at it tommorrow thing is i just told the mechanic that i didn't need to bring it in