Tire Spoons

[goodfellow]

ok

I cut with a sabre saw to the bead and used bolt cutters on the rest. Piece of cake. (Let the air out first).

ok,
now it all makes sense.thanks,Gunshots.

greg

 

[CADFather]

I dismounted my Metz and mounted my Toyo Proxxis with the Harbor Freight tire changer and motorcycle attachment, or I should say the wife and I did. I cut the bead in half on the Metz with a hacksaw blade mounted in one of those little one handed holder thingies (my wife's terminology) and mounted the Toyo in just a matter of minutes after that. It really is simple when you cut the old tire off.

 

[Sidecar Flip]

**** Hard on Fright to the rescue.

 

[HeR3tic]

...I cut the bead in half on the Metz with a hacksaw blade mounted in one of those little one handed holder thingies (my wife's terminology)...

Why isn't the HF hardware/tire changer capable of getting the bead up and over the rim without cutting it?? Was this a matter of the crude lever supplied with the device(s) possibly damaging the rim??

I've got a MojoLever and MojoBlocks on order. Hopefully the group package will do the job. All hardware combined (with the Cooper tire) cost less than a dealer supplied and applied Metzler, by $10.

Come now Flipper, when a person can't afford to have a illegitimate alien to do the grunt work you have to resort to cheap imported far east wares. I just had the local BP Station (the only local tire shop) swap out a bad tire. One tire @ $20 mount and balance. I had an urge for a cigarette

 

[CADFather]

I wound up buggering up my wheel just a little with the supplied tire tool from Harbor Freight and resorted to just cutting the darned thing off to prevent any further damage. I feel like it's better to cut off a tire that you would never put back on and save the wheel then to have a nice pristine bead on an otherwise useless tire. Sure cutting the bead is "cheating" a little but I'm the only one playing the game and I still both win and lose either way. I win because of the undamaged wheel and I lose the experience of wrestling with that tire and damaging my wheel. I agree with what I've seen posted about Triumph messing up the re-invention of the wheel with the Rocket's rear. Why would Triumph insist on an 16" wheel/tire combo using a tire that has to be especially made for the bike, instead of using an 18" wheel/tire combo utilizing an existing tire made by various makers including Metzler?

 

[Sidecar Flip]

Why isn't the HF hardware/tire changer capable of getting the bead up and over the rim without cutting it?? Was this a matter of the crude lever supplied with the device(s) possibly damaging the rim??

I've got a MojoLever and MojoBlocks on order. Hopefully the group package will do the job. All hardware combined (with the Cooper tire) cost less than a dealer supplied and applied Metzler, by $10.

Come now Flipper, when a person can't afford to have a illegitimate alien to do the grunt work you have to resort to cheap imported far east wares. I just had the local BP Station (the only local tire shop) swap out a bad tire. One tire @ $20 mount and balance. I had an urge for a cigarette

Don't worry, I'll have cigaretts on hand in Eureka Springs. Marlboro Reds. Isn't BP and Valero cousins?......oops. That's an other thread, Sorry.

I wound up buggering up my wheel just a little with the supplied tire tool from Harbor Freight and resorted to just cutting the darned thing off to prevent any further damage. I feel like it's better to cut off a tire that you would never put back on and save the wheel then to have a nice pristine bead on an otherwise useless tire. Sure cutting the bead is "cheating" a little but I'm the only one playing the game and I still both win and lose either way. I win because of the undamaged wheel and I lose the experience of wrestling with that tire and damaging my wheel. I agree with what I've seen posted about Triumph messing up the re-invention of the wheel with the Rocket's rear. Why would Triumph insist on an 16" wheel/tire combo using a tire that has to be especially made for the bike, instead of using an 18" wheel/tire combo utilizing an existing tire made by various makers including Metzler?

Why would Triumph insist on a unique rear wheel?? Simple. It limits the consumers options and causes you to deal with pre-selected manufacturers. Just like the Mobil 4TRacing or whatever that stuff is. Only available at a Triumph Dealer. How convenient.

I think i'm gonna start running Shell 15-40 Rotella in the R3. It meets the JASO-MA standard (even though it's not marked as such on the jug). JASO-MA (Japanese Automotive Standards Organization-Motorcycle Applicable). Now that you know what it stands for, you can go a dazzle the sales guy or gal at the bike shop.

You know that old saying......'If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull****'

 

[nolton]

Anyone ever used one of these?

Stubby motorcycle Tire Tools Tire Irons to change tires | eBay

 

[atomsplitter]

Either the search engine herein doesn't play well with others or the subjects haven't been broached: Neither Tire Bead Breaker nor Tire Spoons nor Static Wheel Balancer returned useful information.

1. Has anyone used a MojoLever instead of conventional tire spoons? It sure looks to be the way to go @ $99. The longest spoon I've seen listed was 12". I need more leverage and avoiding wheel damage is paramount. I've never tackled this type of job.
2. Has anyone used the Portable Tire Changer and associated Motorcycle Tire Attachment from Harbor Freight? Or something very similar to it @ $100. The No-Mar Tire Changer is way out of range so I'm looking for a cheap alternative. I'd use the 2x4 lumber fulcrum and leverage method, if breaking the bead were all that were necessary; but, I'm on my own.
3. Has anyone used an affordable static wheel balancer? The Static Balancer from Marc Parnes sure beats the pricing on anything else I've found @ $130.

All totaled that is no more costly that one rear retail Metzler replacement.

Any help will be certainly appreciated.

So what do you need to know?


Changing Rocket tires is a *****?


It is. Get used to it.


I recommend using nylon tipped tools for rim protection.

 

[atomsplitter]

One more note. If you're going to lever a new tire on the rear (the front is a snap) you'll want to get a set of nylon rim protectors. Work the bead slowly over the rim and make sure it doesn't try to seat while getting the second bead over the rim. After that you're only down a few hours you'll never get back, a pint of sweat and a plethora of rankerous adjectives you can't unverbalize (keep the kiddies away when you do it). (Really).:kk:

 

[TheKid]

Hey Flip, you can get the factory oil at O'Reilly auto parts. I also gotta get some pads from ya.
Atomsplitter, I'm jealous of that NoMar. I wanted one, hoped to find one used on Ebay, but no cigar. I keep going back to the same local dude, $20.00 a pop. New tires in the mail, looks like he's gonna make $40.00 bucks on me. Cheaper in the long run, and he's a hell of a lot safer than I will ever be. But I still would like to do it myself.