Longhaul Seat

[owl]

I thought the Sargent and Russell were bespoke alterations which would mean sending the seat away, no?

Sargent is a totally new seat, (and very firm) but you have to send a standard seat to California for Russel to rework it. Cheapest method is to buy a replacement seat on ebay.com & get the seller to send it directly to Russell for you.

Have a perusal of their website http://www.day-long.com/ You have to supply your weight, height & inside leg measurement then some photos of you in your normal riding position, and they make a bespoke seat made to measure. Comfier than my sofa.

 

[Navigator]

Interesting comments and have taken note, however before I spend I'm just wondering if my expectations are too high - the sore bums came after spending 2¾ hours non stop in the saddle, I have been on other touring sites and the general consensus is anything over 2 hours is asking for trouble.

Any comments from our more 'iron-arse'd' members. :razz:

Your expectations are absolutely not too high. I just rode 3800 miles on my old Harley Electra Glide which has a Mustang seat. We generally got off every 2-3 hours in the saddle and even at my advanced age, I never once was sore. Contrast that with my original stocker seat on my Rocket where I was absolutely miserable at two hours. And it got worse on my cross country where by the third day I was starting to feel the misery at about 80 miles.

Ditto on the back rest. I use either a back rest or a seat bag to lean on.

 

[zimtuff]

Airhawk+backrest = ass heaven

 

[barbagris]

Not sure if you know the roads but we rode back from the Channel Tunnel along the coastal route, stopped in Shoreham (near Brighton) for an hour for a cupper and sarnie - then on to M27 Rownhams services for ½ hour stop. It was the last stint from Rownhams to home in North Devon that did the damage, mixed roads - motorway - duel carriageway and single lane - none of them that smooth, you must know what British road surfaces are like .

I grew up around Wimborne - So yup I know those roads (knew anyway) - I'd be pissed if I could not do Dover to Wimborne without a stop too. A backrest WILL help - so would thickish close fitting leathers. Airhawk - maybe. I run on roads here that are similar and worse and here distance between things are larger than the UK.

The backrest alone made 80-100mile runs hugely more comfortable - there was a Triumph dealer selling them on ebay not long ago - about 50 quid. Without it 50-60 miles and my lower spine was complaining. The OEM seat allows you to roll back - teh backrest stops that. I bought a spare - for a spare Classic seat I have. The spare is going to get customised. Airhawks are no doubt useful, but I keep mine in the pannier and just use it when it's necessary to relieve a hot spot. Airhawk full time I simply could not get on with.

 

[barbagris]

Oh - and I think it's fair to mention that changing stock shocks to Fournales stopped the jarring sensation.

 

[lionel]

Just bought

Rocket III Classic - Classic Touring Dual Seat £91.99

Rocket III Classic Adjustable Rider Backrest £55.99

Not had time to fit them yet so not seen if there is any difference over stock seat.

http://www.triumphworld.co.uk/

I'm lucky to do 80 miles without a sore ass, and pain in base of spine. Maybe more support on the back of the legs would take weight of spine and bum cheeks.

Had same problem on Thunderbird 1600.

The old cantilever seat on my Sunbeam S7 is much more comfortable.

 

[Battersea]

I would be interested to know how you get on with the seat, do you know the part number for it?

 

[lionel]

I would be interested to know how you get on with the seat, do you know the part number for it?

This is the details from confirmation email when I ordered.

TRIUMPH Rocket III Classic - Classic Touring Dual Seat
Product ID: hjpA9708164rocketiiiclassic

TRIUMPH Rocket III Classic Adjustable Rider Backrest
Product ID: hjpA9708160rocketiiiclassic

Total Order Value :£158.78

 

[zimtuff]

Oh - and I think it's fair to mention that changing stock shocks to Fournales stopped the jarring sensation.

I would even suggest changing the shocks before you change the seat. The OEM shocks will make any seat feel bad.

 

[barbagris]

Just had a nice "technical" reply about GEL pads from a company in the UK. They make air and gel cushions for medical use - and do Gel and air pads for bikes now too.

They say that the gel pad needs to be a good 16mm thick (they supply 18mm) as the bones in ones bum sinks a good centimetre into the Gel.

http://www.danmedicasouth.co.uk/

I confess I'm tempted to get a couple to try.

Also there may be another issue with the LongHaul. But it maybe ambient temperature related.

It is awkward to shift position once sat and moving (for me anyway). It's as if the vinyl is so soft it sticks to your bum and pulls you back to where you were. I find I cant just shuffle about - I have to actually lift off the seat and resit. And if you get it wrong you stuck on wrong again. Thinking back I had a similar issue with the stock Buell seat - I fitted a Corbin to that and it had a leather seating surface. Was as hard as hell but you could move.