Gimlet

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England, County Durham
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2023 R3 GT
Sadly the R3 has had to go. I've got three bikes and I need to slim down to one bike right now for financial reasons. I need an all-rounder and much as I loved the Rocket that meant something lighter and more agile (not that the R3 wasn't a great handling bike - it was).

I wanted something that would give me a similar sense of earth-moving thrust you get from a Rocket but lighter with a more conventional roadster riding position that would be comfortable all day and have nimble back-road handling without being too focused or cramped like a sports bike or supernaked.

After much thought I've bought this:

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It was of similar value to the Rocket so it was almost a straight swap trade-in with little money changing hands.
How does it compare? Remarkably well. I've got a Ducati already plus a KTM so I'm used to big twins, nevertheless I had to recalibrate my brain to a big punchy, high revving V after the silky low revving triple. Took a few miles but I'm there now.
You can't just roll along at 2500 rpm on the Rocket's huge torque. You have to keep it above 4K but when you do and use the engine correctly it has just as much acceleration as an R3. It's got the DVT variable valve timing engine which means there's masses of torque everywhere. Not as much as the Rocket's but as it's so much lighter you can't tell the difference. In fact it's blisteringly quick. It has the same 240 setion rear tyre but it's a 17" Pirelli with a much more sporty profile and TBH it handles like any other supernaked with fully adjustable Ohlins suspension and there's loads of ground clearance. Enough to get to the edge of the tyre before anything touches down.

It's not as comfortable as the armchair GT but it's by no means bad. I could ride it all day, albeit with welcome fuel stops.

I'm genuinely sad to see the Rocket go. Ideally I'd be able to keep every great bike I've ever bought but needs must and you can't always have everything you want.

I think I've made the right choice. Hope I can still look in here from time to time as it's a civilised grown-up site with lots of interesting content.
 
That's really nice. I looked at one of them also. Exhaust tucked away. Look at where that rear brake master cylinder is located. 😉
 
Why not then a Speed Triple 1200 RS?
Thought about it actually. But it would have to be the 2025 model with the semi-active suspension and that wasn't financially feasible. Plus I kind of like having the feel of the broad shouldered bruiser-cruiser road presence. The Diavel has that. It also has the instant smack of torque the Rocket has because of that DVT V-twin engine.
And Speedies are very compact with a more focused riding position. I did try a 2025 Speedie for size at my local dealer and it's very sports bike-like in the riding position. Also incredibly light BTW. Maybe it was dry but you'd never believe it was a 1200 triple just from hefting it.
 
That's really nice. I looked at one of them also. Exhaust tucked away. Look at where that rear brake master cylinder is located. 😉
I'm booking it in Monday to have a Termi full system fitted. Apart from the power boost and a vastly better sound it sheds nearly 8 kg of weigth and a lot of bulk under the bike.
The dealer noticed something wrong with the rear brake on mine. The outer plastic on the brake line had been coming into contact with the heat shield and melted. They stripped it and replaced the parts (and yes, you're right. It's a time consuming job servicing the rear brake..). They think the original owner had been trying to change the position of the brake lever. It isn't very good. You have to press your foot down a long way to get any brake action. He was probaby trying to adjust the lever position and fouled something on the exhaust. The size of the exhaust and lack of space is probably why Ducati set it up that way. When the Termi's fitted there'll be loads more room under there and then I'll look at adjusting the lever position. If not, I can live with it. It's a little awkward but I'll get used to it.
 
Thought about it actually. But it would have to be the 2025 model with the semi-active suspension and that wasn't financially feasible. Plus I kind of like having the feel of the broad shouldered bruiser-cruiser road presence. The Diavel has that. It also has the instant smack of torque the Rocket has because of that DVT V-twin engine.
And Speedies are very compact with a more focused riding position. I did try a 2025 Speedie for size at my local dealer and it's very sports bike-like in the riding position. Also incredibly light BTW. Maybe it was dry but you'd never believe it was a 1200 triple just from hefting it.
My '22 RS weighs in at 435 pounds and has 150 RWHP (dyno sayeth so). You're right it's very light. It's a whole lot of fun and very fast. It doesn't have the punch off the bottom of my Rocket GT but once you spin it up over 6K hold on tight, the power delivery is brutal.
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