I hate key fobs

my passive keys has holes already for keyring. no need for any drilling
the fob will authenticate once at ignition on, never again until ignition off. once on, you can essentially turn the fob off and the bike will stay on.
I’ve never had cell interference even with fob/phone in same pocket.
 
They'll need to do the pairing, since it requires the diagnostic tool (or equivalent). But it should take less than 30 minutes.
It'll still start with a dead FOB battery, though.
The Rocket's system doesn't have that issue.
For the life of me, have yet to see an upside to fob’s. Consistently a PITA, yes. Upside, no. They accomplish nothing of added value, just cause problems. Truly, hate them. I want a simple, small, key, with a spare or two.
Harder to lose, break, or forget in the ignition. You can just hop on and ride. No physical mechanism to fail.
 
I'm curious about the passive VS smart key. What is the difference? I recently installed a keyless system on my '06 RIII Classic. The FOB can be programmed to automatically energize the ignition with the FOB in my pocket if I am within approx. 10' of the bike. It can also be programmed to turn the ignition on with a single press of a button. Is this what the new Generation Rocket keys do but requires two different keys? One key if you want automatic activation and a different key if you want to manually press a button to activate the ignition?
 
Einer,
Thanks for the tips.....especially the second point where you can use the FOB to start by using it as a passive key. I tried it by turning OFF the FOB,
hold the FOB against the antenna and it booted up to start. If this can be done, why even bother with a battery in the FOB? Maybe the battery allows starting from the FOB distance from your pocket? Revenue generator....
 
I took mine....they are easy take them out. your battery will thank you
 
Harder to lose? Please.

Forget in the ignition? Dementia, or? I knowingly leave my key in vehicles quite purposely, and often, living by choice in not-a-crap-hole, low crime area. I don’t even want a “key”; a switch would be fine with me. Shrug.

I can just “hop on and ride, no mechanism to fail”? Please. Have fiddle farted with the stupid fob (distance from receiver not right, battery low, switches self off) so often, hence longing for a plain azz key. Which would be less bulky, and less flexy/breakable, to boot. When even the dealer struggles to start the bike trying to sell it to me, it’s a sign. Bad design decision - sign.

Rest of the bike, really love; nitpicks, but overall great. Rocketimg across rural West last two days, loving it.

But for a crappy fob.
 
I agree with all the nay sayers, the fob is a PITA, and holding against the antenna does not always go that easy. I do it now and then to practice but takes a while to connect. Give me a key and ignition anytime, always know where the key is.
 
I find that I can start the bike with a dead or almost dead FOB by having it in my right front pocket. I stand next to the bike, move my right pocket to the antenna or close anyway and then I can still reach the clutch and ignition switch at the same time.

I have a FOB on my Indian Roadmaster and the nice thing with it is if you have an issue the screen will pop up a 4 digit PIN you can enter to get you moving again.
 
Yeah, I'm not following the method you guys are using trying to start with either the passive key or a fob with a flat battery. You don't need to have 3 hands. You don't need to pull the clutch in at the same time as hold the key & press the start/kill switch.

2 hands & no problem at all, right hand holds the flat fob / passive key at the antenna, left hand presses the start/kill switch to run. Once the dash lights up you're good to go, THEN pull in the clutch & start. You don't need to try & do 3 things at once. Just 2 cents worth that may help some.

Give it a go, it works & I'm pretty sure that's how the OM says to do it too.
 
On the early rockets there is no way that you can start it with out holding the clutch in unless the clutch switch is shorted. If it is shorted then that will cause running problems.
I am curious if the newer rockets are like that or do you have a shorted clutch switch..