R3R Torque
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You're asking a community of Rocket owners if you should buy a Rocket or a Goldwing. Seriously.
What?
My feedback was completely unbiased... 
Hi folks!
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What?
My feedback was completely unbiased... 
Wetrudgeon
Supercharged
You're asking a community of Rocket owners if you should buy a Rocket or a Goldwing. Seriously
What Torque said. Like his, our observations are absolutely unbiased. The Beast is the better bike by a fair margin; and if it was not, we would know it.
We trudge on.
What Torque said. Like his, our observations are absolutely unbiased. The Beast is the better bike by a fair margin; and if it was not, we would know it.
We trudge on.
macshooter
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Glad to here you're recovering well and are ready to get back in the saddle.
Wings are really nice comfortable long distance bikes, and the F6B is another cool variation.
I've only had my R3R for a few weeks and all I can say is wow. The torque this thing produces is addictive. My last HD was making over 100hp and 110tq at the tire - which is fairly strong for HD, but there really isn't any comparison. The R3R just makes so much more raw, effortless power. Plus it's unique, a hell of a lot of fun to ride, and gets more attention than any of the HDs I've owned.
I just finished installing the roadster windscreen, triumph panniers, and backrest for the mrs. Still need to decide on grips and install rivco risers - I'm 6'2.
Everything should be done after that... except for my recently acquired tors (exhaust) in my garage and a tune.
One last thing. The R3R is really a lot of bike for the money. Bike and all the extras, after taxes, is still a fair amount less expensive than the MSRP for the F6B.
Take care,
Gary
I used to dog on Harleys, never owned one, but they were always too expensive and underpowered. But there are a few things I really like about them, not much plastic, everything is solid metal, they sound GREAT, and they look classic. If there was a bike out there with the reliability of a honda, the solid feel and awesome sound of a harley, and it had some where around 200hp/200tq, I think that would the perfect bike.
I was actually looking at the 2013 CVO road glide recently (looking, there's NO WAY I would drop $30K+ on a bike, if I had it sitting around.) But that bike seems about at the top of the heap as far as power goes for Harleys. I dig the new LED headlights, they are called daymakers, I'd like to figure a way to put them on the R3R. I think that would look sick.
You're asking a community of Rocket owners if you should buy a Rocket or a Goldwing. Seriously.
OK, here goes. How anyone considering a Rocket can even look at one of those stupid FB6s and say "I might get one of those" is completely beyond me. Not sure a Rocket's for you mate.
LOL Yah. I guess I'm asking if the Rocket is up to the long haul? I'm probably not going to have a chance to buy another bike for a LONG time, as I'm going to be moving and most likely changing careers soon, and making less money, but living in a much better place. (life is often a trade off) So I'm gonna have to make whatever I get last. There's no doubt the Rocket beats the F6B for looks, power, fun, all that. But that's no good if it's crapped out and costing me bunch to fix it again and again after 50K miles. If I'm going to get another bike, it NEEDS to be a bike that will last and last. It's purpose is not for weekend fun, but to save long miles on my other vehicles, which I also cannot replace any time soon.
Aside from that. Any of you guys find yourself wishing there was a 6th gear on the Rocket? What are the rpms like in 5th at 70mph/110kmh?
TOMCAT
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There is a bike with the reliability of a Honda , awesome looks and has a great sound.... we all own one .. best bike I've ever owned and I've had a few. Just over a 100,000 klms on my 2009 purchased Standard. Don't expect it to go 'forever' it's a machine after all.
.. best bike I've ever owned and I've had a few. Just over a 100,000 klms on my 2009 purchased Standard. Don't expect it to go 'forever' it's a machine after all.
R3R Torque
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I'm around 2600 - 2700 rpm at 70, I think. At 3000 rpm, just over 80. IMHO I don't think a 6th gear is needed at all.
Agree with everything said about HDs. One interesting note is I had over 120k on my 99 e-glide before it started giving me any problems, which really was my fault. Replaced stock pipes and didn't properly rejet the carb. No problems with my 2011 Ultra Limited either.
200 & 200 would be insane in a V-Twin.
Agree with everything said about HDs. One interesting note is I had over 120k on my 99 e-glide before it started giving me any problems, which really was my fault. Replaced stock pipes and didn't properly rejet the carb. No problems with my 2011 Ultra Limited either.
200 & 200 would be insane in a V-Twin.
vanguard138
Living Legend
Welcome from Northern Michigan.
I have a 2013 R3T I purchased last May on my birthday I have been across the country, from Sea to Shining Sea. AND I am getting my 30,000 mile service done next week. Reliable? Yes!!! Comfortable? Yes!!! Power and torque? Yup, but not as much as the Roadster. I absolutely LOVE her! I also pull a Bushtec trailer behind her on long trips. The Beast is more than capable of hauling whatever you want in the trailer. Nothing I would rather ride....bike wise
I have a 2013 R3T I purchased last May on my birthday
I have been across the country, from Sea to Shining Sea. AND I am getting my 30,000 mile service done next week. Reliable? Yes!!! Comfortable? Yes!!! Power and torque? Yup, but not as much as the Roadster. I absolutely LOVE her! I also pull a Bushtec trailer behind her on long trips. The Beast is more than capable of hauling whatever you want in the trailer. Nothing I would rather ride....bike wise
Aside from that. Any of you guys find yourself wishing there was a 6th gear on the R
6th would still just be a 1:1 or (just under) final ratio so adding another gear would only serve to shorten the previous 5 - really not necessary with 220NM torque.
At 65hp/litre @under 6000rpm (low piston speed too) this really is one helluva relaxed engine so really should last a looooong time with appropriate maintenance.
Also remember that it is human nature to complain not compliment so when you research anything on forums like these you are going to read about more problems than good points - this model run has lasted 10 years with really no major change to the bike AT ALL. A few mechanical tweeks to fix the common issues you will read about on here, but otherwise nothing. To my mind this falls into the 'if ain't broke don't fix it' category
6th would still just be a 1:1 or (just under) final ratio so adding another gear would only serve to shorten the previous 5 - really not necessary with 220NM torque.
At 65hp/litre @under 6000rpm (low piston speed too) this really is one helluva relaxed engine so really should last a looooong time with appropriate maintenance.
Also remember that it is human nature to complain not compliment so when you research anything on forums like these you are going to read about more problems than good points - this model run has lasted 10 years with really no major change to the bike AT ALL. A few mechanical tweeks to fix the common issues you will read about on here, but otherwise nothing. To my mind this falls into the 'if ain't broke don't fix it' category
macshooter
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Thanks all. Yeah, the way I figure, if there's not some major engineering flaw (and there's been plenty of time for that to come out and get fixed since this bike first hit the streets.), a giant smooth engine with tons of extra power that gets treated nice by it's owner should last a while. That coupled with the fact that it's quite a bit less expensive than anything else I've been looking at pretty much has me sold.
Now one more question for ya'll. I have read that on average dealer invoice on these bikes is 13.5% below MSRP. MSRP here in the states for this thing is $14999. That would make dealer invoice $13000. If I split that 13.5% mark up in half, to 7%, of $15K, that's about a grand. The dealer makes grand on the bike, and I knock a grand off MSRP. (seems reasonable right?)
Tax in Texas I believe is 6.5% which at $14,000 makes it $14,910. Plus title and license, and transportation charge, I'm guessing roughly $500 for all of that, for a total of $15,500 out the door. So I'm thinking I offer $15K on the nose, and see if I can get it for that, if not let them work me up to $15,500, and maybe offer to buy a taller rear tire and a couple of aftermarket bits from the accessory shop to sweeten the deal a little more if need be. Does that sound right to you guys, or am I way off?
I should probably wait till the summer's about over, or maybe make an offer in the winter... but really I don't think it's gonna make that much difference to this shop because they have 2010 models of various kinds sitting around with MSRP stickers on them. They don't look afraid to sit on them for a while. The guy I talked to when I went there to see how the bike fit me was talking like $16,600. Whaday'all think?
Thanks again.
Now one more question for ya'll. I have read that on average dealer invoice on these bikes is 13.5% below MSRP. MSRP here in the states for this thing is $14999. That would make dealer invoice $13000. If I split that 13.5% mark up in half, to 7%, of $15K, that's about a grand. The dealer makes grand on the bike, and I knock a grand off MSRP. (seems reasonable right?)
Tax in Texas I believe is 6.5% which at $14,000 makes it $14,910. Plus title and license, and transportation charge, I'm guessing roughly $500 for all of that, for a total of $15,500 out the door. So I'm thinking I offer $15K on the nose, and see if I can get it for that, if not let them work me up to $15,500, and maybe offer to buy a taller rear tire and a couple of aftermarket bits from the accessory shop to sweeten the deal a little more if need be. Does that sound right to you guys, or am I way off?
I should probably wait till the summer's about over, or maybe make an offer in the winter... but really I don't think it's gonna make that much difference to this shop because they have 2010 models of various kinds sitting around with MSRP stickers on them. They don't look afraid to sit on them for a while. The guy I talked to when I went there to see how the bike fit me was talking like $16,600. Whaday'all think?
Thanks again.
cardinal93
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Mac,
Welcome from Germany (by way of Mississippi)!
Sounds like the prices haven't changed much (couple grand) since I bought mine brand new in 07....yes, that's 6 years of blissful riding and zero maintenance so far
I think everyone's said it pretty well. You can get the Beast, put on the expensive (but very nice) Corbin aftermarkets, and still be way under the F6B in price. If you walk out the door with one for $15K with any extras, you should be smiling almost as big as you will be when you first pull out of the lot and she puts you off the front of the seat!
There's always the chance you get the occasional dud...happens with every manufacturer and make, and could even happen with the F6B. But I think overall, you'll find maybe 3 minor, common issues that have occured with the rocket. And to my knowledge they've been upgraded in manufacturing since (ignition relay, detent spring or gear slippage, and clutch cable). I'm not even sure the clutch cable is a common problem. I have now started experiencing the gear issue, but that will be taken care of as soon as the riding season's over. She has more than enough torque to simply shortshift or skip second altogether until then! Hell, I take off from stoplights in 3d without much notice.
If you're asking about the reliability, I think we'll all express there's not a much more reliable bike out there (again, a few unfortunate souls may disagree, but the masses won't)
Back to Hanso's recommendation. Go test drive them both, but don't forget to take your checkbook to the triumph dealer! Welcome to the group!
Welcome from Germany (by way of Mississippi)!
Sounds like the prices haven't changed much (couple grand) since I bought mine brand new in 07....yes, that's 6 years of blissful riding and zero maintenance so far
I think everyone's said it pretty well. You can get the Beast, put on the expensive (but very nice) Corbin aftermarkets, and still be way under the F6B in price. If you walk out the door with one for $15K with any extras, you should be smiling almost as big as you will be when you first pull out of the lot and she puts you off the front of the seat!
There's always the chance you get the occasional dud...happens with every manufacturer and make, and could even happen with the F6B. But I think overall, you'll find maybe 3 minor, common issues that have occured with the rocket. And to my knowledge they've been upgraded in manufacturing since (ignition relay, detent spring or gear slippage, and clutch cable). I'm not even sure the clutch cable is a common problem. I have now started experiencing the gear issue, but that will be taken care of as soon as the riding season's over. She has more than enough torque to simply shortshift or skip second altogether until then! Hell, I take off from stoplights in 3d without much notice.
If you're asking about the reliability, I think we'll all express there's not a much more reliable bike out there (again, a few unfortunate souls may disagree, but the masses won't)
Back to Hanso's recommendation. Go test drive them both, but don't forget to take your checkbook to the triumph dealer! Welcome to the group!
macshooter
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I went back to the stealer, and I can do this deal for $15K out the door, the thing is brand new, no oil in the motor, so I get to break it in right. Matte black with white stripes, ABS. Should I go for it?
