I went and took another test ride on the victory vision yesterday. Full dressed with luggage rack/passenger back rest for the wife to enjoy. She's a somewhat large gal a little over 200lbs.As she was trying to get on, The vision laid over on its left side, yes the kickstand was up, my fault. She felt bad and didn't want to ride after that. The saleman came over and said, "don't worry, it's designed to lay over without damage", with that he (all 140 lbs of him) kicked the kickstand out from under it, and let it drop on its side, backed up to it and easily lifted it up, no damage. We then went rideing. I'm telling ya guys, for a 106C.I. v-twin, if you want comfort, check this vision out, you'll throw rocks at a gold wing after that...xhdskip