Evap Canister Removal Question

[barbagris]

My understanding from Tom (TuneECU Tom) and he from Alain. Was that the tunes we see are really only a part of the whole ECU content.

For this reason I'm not entirely sure that many of the maps out there are necessarily as good as they may at first seem. Triumph has made changes (I'm told) in other areas of the ECU. This is reflected in the substitution of non-modified OEM maps for newer versions with different base map numbers.

I'm not questioning the TUNING work. But wonder if maybe the part should be carried across into newer OEM base tunes. Honestly I do not know. But I did read that the newer OEM maps have other beneficial differences.

 

[atomsplitter]

After my little run to town and a check to see how quickly I passed 110 mph, the result was that the CE light went out. According to the instrument panel, all is right with the world. No evap can. I guess the error code thing is a false alarm and nothing to worry about.

I thought the tune I had had the Oxy sensor checked to off. I'll check it in the morning to make sure.

The first test run shows the following:

1). Not the head-snapper I expected with a 70% increase in h.p.. The dyno will tell the true story.

2). Really bad decel popping. That'll have to go.
3). Durn smooth on hard acceleration in all gears. Now it's time for optimization.

4). Idle is a little rough at about 850-875 - either warm or cold. Almost cammy. Almost surging.

Just for ****s and giggles, I'm going to load the Danish guy's tune in the morning (3xK%N, complete Jard exhaust, but with dB killers). He posted higher numbers than Bruce (from whom I got this tune off the .net site), but we'll see what the differeces are, or if they're noticable. I'm also going to try and break the neighbor's windows when I leave. I think I can do it.

I'm going to take the bike into Ron the Dyno Guy in south Portland and let him have a whack at it. I'd also love to have input from the horsepower Sensei's on this site, either before or during the dyno testing. If there is anything I should do before I go to the expensive dyno guy, I want to do it as early as possible.

Tomorrow, I'll give you a road report on the Danish guy's tune as a comparison. Remember, there are almost no TuneECU maps available for the mods setup I have (only two, to be exact). We will be breaking new published ground if we get something that works well. There are a bunch of Tuneboy maps available for my setup, but I don't know how to translate them to TuneECU. Tom hamburg provided a whole list of scary things that could happen and a bunch of possible points of devastating failure if one was to try and download a Tuneboy tune (.dat file) into TuneECU format (.hex file). Frying the ECU was at the top of the list.

I hate reinventing the ****ed wheel, but reinvent I will if there is no other way. I'm not afraid of data entry.

Dammit. No baseball tonight.

To fix the decel there's a number of threads devoted to the topic. Bsically you have to fatten the 3 L tables (Tuneboy) which are the last 6% of throttle. The pop disappears when you up the bottom of the tables 10% to 15%. The .net site has a great tutorial on it.

 

[barbagris]

1). Not the head-snapper I expected with a 70% increase in h.p.

Well - that might have something to do with the rider's (how shall I put this) bulk.

 

[MountainMan]

Well - that might have something to do with the rider's (how shall I put this) bulk.

Brave talk from a boney-assed, wine-jug-suckin' guy who has to hide out in the bowels of Europe so he can rest his gimpy wrist.





I'm not fat, Chris. I just have a really big head.

 

[atomsplitter]

Brave talk from a boney-assed, wine-jug-suckin' guy who has to hide out in the bowels of Europe so he can rest his gimpy wrist.





I'm not fat, Chris. I just have a really big head.

Sure you don't want to go with: "I call that bold talk from a one-eyed old fat man?"

 

[Blastedbones]

Funny :lol:
Get 'er dynoed.. with those mods you should be pulling 150-155 hp, & over 150 TQ; once she's tuned right.

 

[MountainMan]

Sure you don't want to go with: "I call that bold talk from a one-eyed old fat man?"

I didn't say I was original.

I just got back from a 100 mile run with the Danish tune for those mods. In a couple of words.............. HOLY SHIIIIIIITTT.

As Warp says, it "pulls like a freight train." fuel mileage went from 36-38 to 45 mpg. I had to go buy a fancy set of $15 ear plugs just to show Ol' Blue some committment to her new configuration. She's happy, now. The dyno numbers from the Danish guys (listed on the .net site) put this tune at 152 h.p. and about 165 torques. I think Ol' Blue is pretty close to that.

Today's Weird Stuff:

1). The odometer is messed up. After exactly 90 miles (as measured by mile markers), the trip meter showed 72.7 miles.

2). Because the odo is messed up, I have no faith that the speedo is anywhere near accurate. I rode a back-country highway, so there was no means to judge by watching other traffic. And I didn't put a stopwatch on it.

3). Fuel gauge is also messed up. The half full mark used to be right at 100 miles. Today, it read half full at 65 miles (tripmeter indicated). All with an increase in fuel mileage from 36 to 45 mpg.

Now I have to figure out if I can use TuneECU to get the instrument cluster to do things with some degree of accuracy.

Any hints, guys?

 

[valmacmiami]

Where do you guys get these fuel consumption figures from I am back with standard pipes and cat delete secondaries removed and I am lucky if I GET 25MPG
but I do cane it everywhere.

 

[barbagris]

I'm not fat, Chris. I just have a really big head.

Circumcision?

 

[atomsplitter]

Where do you guys get these fuel consumption figures from I am back with standard pipes and cat delete secondaries removed and I am lucky if I GET 25MPG
but I do cane it everywhere.

It's in the wrist you get economy. I get 33 mpg day-to-day. Herd ridining I get 50 mpg. Back roads about 28 mpg.