2007 Clutch Upgrade

[warp9.9]

OK . . the bike is listed as an 07. BUT we ran the numbers and it looks like early 06 motor. Its silver. It definitely has the old style lifter piece and flat needle bearing. Clutch plates themselves are not bad and I have an extra set I took out of mine when I put in the Barnett. Ive ordered the new lifter piece, late model pressure plate and bearing . . and wavy washer. Also ordered the new lifter shaft. As far as I know the only difference was those pieces.

Molinoman . . yep, still me, still the same bike although I am looking at a new FB6 Goldwing I will keep the Rocket.

Thanks dave I always wondered what the 06 and 07 silver motors had in them and it does sound like they were left overs from 05 not that thats bad just trying to figure out stuff to keep in my library of knowledge to asnswer questions when needed. Your the first I know to report on the insides of them. Can you post the engine serial number I want to compare it to my 06. I believe the lifter shafts are the same but I always make sure I have one when I open her up as they are not expensive and it beats waiting on one if you end up needing it.

 

[captain jack]

Ok here is the way things go as far as I know and unitl soemone takes a tourer model apart I will not be able to tell if the silver motors offered in 06 thru 07 are left overs or not. One way to tell is the clutch the other would be the type of cam blade that is used on the tensioner side.
The Triumph clutch was chaged in 06 I know this because I have a 06 Ckassic model abd it has the newer style clutch plate.
Below are some pictures and what I know of clutches.

firs tthe older style 04-05 clutch pressure plate and lifter piece

old styel pressure plate with needle roller bearing

old style lifter piece

new style lifter piece and roller bearing with new styel lifter piece.

new style lifter piece and roller bearing

2010 changes in the lifter piece which is the head diamter. I believe this was a great move as it reduces the lifter piece from wallering around in the lifter shaft. I also figure it stops some of the lifter rattling people hear int he clutch.

the difference comparison bwteen the two lifter pieces on the new style clutch (newer style on the left.

comparison between the two from the topside

here is a comparison of them in the lifter shaft first the old style 06

now the new style which I beleieve came out in the roadster 2010 anyone take a 09 apart let me know what they find so I can verify.

Clutch fiber comparison between OEM and MTC

the more contact are is the MTC on the left.

I hope this helps

Ive just got everything out for Detent replacement, I was confused that I have a different lifter shaft than the one shown in Bennys video for clutch renewal, & I have no small radial roller bearing on the shaft. Mine is an 09 Classic so I thought i'de reply as you asked about it.
The first photo is of my bike, second is a still from Bennys video. Hope it shows the difference, I can't tell if it's the heavy duty shaft or not.

 

[warp9.9]

Ive just got everything out for Detent replacement, I was confused that I have a different lifter shaft than the one shown in Bennys video for clutch renewal, & I have no small radial roller bearing on the shaft. Mine is an 09 Classic so I thought i'de reply as you asked about it.
The first photo is of my bike, second is a still from Bennys video. Hope it shows the difference, I can't tell if it's the heavy duty shaft or not.

Yes you have the newer clutch assembly. Some how Triumph installed an 04-05 clutch in his 08 Classic bike. The only difference is the pressure plate and lifter piece, and what type bearing it has. Yours has a roller bearing instead of the needle thrust bearing. IMHO the newer style is better bearing wise as you get both thrust and radial from the roller bearing.

 

[Neville Lush]

I don't think there is a hard and fast rule on what Triumph put in these bikes. I have seen newer bikes with the older style clutch pusher and vica versa. The Barnett clutch pack works well enough to hold back 290hp supercharged power I have found so I don't know what happened to you Rick. Having said that there is nothing wrong with the MTC plates. They are a fair bit harder/dearer to get out here.

 

[warp9.9]

I don't think there is a hard and fast rule on what Triumph put in these bikes. I have seen newer bikes with the older style clutch pusher and vica versa. The Barnett clutch pack works well enough to hold back 290hp supercharged power I have found so I don't know what happened to you Rick. Having said that there is nothing wrong with the MTC plates. They are a fair bit harder/dearer to get out here.

I kind of agree with you Nev but suspect they run out of parts on the assembly line and the stuff the old style in the bike knowing it will work. Of course you have been into more of these then I have so you would Know how often it happens. I must admit to liking the MTC fibers over the OEM ones. I could swear sometimes I think I feel the my Carpenter bikes clutch slip a wee bit . Of course sometimes it is the tire. We shall see if she wears out I already have a MTC basket and fibers slated for it.