roadster recall

[Toddyboy]

So after replacing the final drive in my Roadster and ordering a new drive shaft from my local dealer (200kms away) I found out there's a recall that replaces wiring in my headlight and puts in a relay to avoid main wiring harness screw up. Which I've already replaced for a cost of $1800 . so I get the recall done instead of installing the Eastern Beaver kit only to find my bike now does If I don't ride it daily. Within 2 days the battery is flat . been to Dealer and back 3 times the third time I told them just pull the recall and they told me they did. Well they didn't battery died in 2 days (on a weekend) I have to pull the relay out every time I parked the bike or I'll come out to a dead battery has anyone had any experience on how to fix this because the dealership says they don't know what to do until Triumph tells them.. thank you in advance

 

[sleeves]

So after replacing the final drive in my Roadster and ordering a new drive shaft from my local dealer (200kms away) I found out there's a recall that replaces wiring in my headlight and puts in a relay to avoid main wiring harness screw up. Which I've already replaced for a cost of $1800 . so I get the recall done instead of installing the Eastern Beaver kit only to find my bike now does If I don't ride it daily. Within 2 days the battery is flat . been to Dealer and back 3 times the third time I told them just pull the recall and they told me they did. Well they didn't battery died in 2 days (on a weekend) I have to pull the relay out every time I parked the bike or I'll come out to a dead battery has anyone had any experience on how to fix this because the dealership says they don't know what to do until Triumph tells them.. thank you in advance

I feel your pain with the distance to your dealer being inconvenient to say the least. Suggest you call them and organize taking it to a decent auto electrician to sort at their (Triumph/dealerships) cost. Simply if its drawing power and flattening battery somethings using the power, shouldn't be too hard to find if they're halfway competent.

Shouldn't be your problem to fix though, there are some people on the forum with real good electrical skills. My guess would be the relay they installed will have a coil and its probably constantly energized even with the ignition off. Not sure this is good for the relay if this is the case as it might get quite hot.

If your not going to sort it yourself (shouldn't have to) they should pay for an auto-electrician and claim back off Triumph, doesn't matter what brand it is, a sparky will be able to trace it and change it.

 

[DEcosse]

New member in Japan: 30A fuse blowing (horn, turn signals)

You can use the diagrams in my post above to check whether the mod was executed correctly
If battery is draining, then I suspect they connected the constant power to the 86 terminal which would leave the relay energized all the time; that would drain about 140mA of current, which does not sound like a 'lot' but would certainly drain your battery in couple of days.

It is definitely a good idea to have the mod (whether original Triumph method or my alternative method) but of course is dependent on being executed correctly!
So I would suggest don't 'abandon' doing it, just get it done right.

 

[mully95]

Triumph dealerships pull people off the streets and show them the shop area I believe. If you can fog a mirror you're hired. There are members on here that could run circles around most of the techs at the dealerships.

If you listen to Decosse you WILL get it straightened out way before the clowns at the dealership can do it.

 

[Joesmoe]

That's EXACTLY what they did -- both hire the fogger -- and they connected the relay to the positive terminal of the battery - "I tell you what -- we're gonna get some power to this baby!"

Concur with pushing them to a decent auto electrician on their nickel.

Hope it works out for you soon.

 

[DEcosse]

FYI - this is the pin ID for a Micro Relay
Note that this is viewed looking directly at the terminals, or looking into the end of the socket where the wires exit
(conversely if you were looking down into the receptacle side of the socket, it would be mirror image left - right)

Edit - I meant to add - the three terminals 85, 86 & 87a are 3/16" size; 30 & 87 are 1/4" size

 

[DEcosse]

This is what the new relay should look like

Again, the is looking into the socket from the bottom side (if looking down from top, it would be reversed left - right)

 

[Toddyboy]

This is what the new relay should look like

Again, the is looking into the socket from the bottom side (if looking down from top, it would be reversed left - right)

So it I moved the 30 to a switched source of be ok?

 

[Toddyboy]

I'd

 

[Joesmoe]

The 30 lead is where the main power comes for the circuit -- so no, that is on un-switched power.

It's the energize circuit (green) that is suspect here -- tied to un-switched power when it shouldn't be.