Red light camera dos n donts

Bigjaype said:

Yes, the number plate recognition technology has come a long way. In fact, what they do here now, is park a van with a small camera outside. The pursuit cars sit about 200 metres down the road. By the time you've passed the camera and get close to the cops, they already have all your info. Expired registration, outstanding fines or warrants etc. and they pull you over.

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Yeah mate, it has become fairly ridiculous down under lately. NSW has removed all the markings from their roadside cars and it's not until you pass the little "your speed has been checked" sign up the road you know you've been done. And they have those mobile cameras cruising up and down the freeways as well.

In the ACT we had the older box-style red light camera that just snapped an image on red, but they always had a "speed and red light camera ahead" sign leading up to them so when they quietly switched them out for the odd vertical oval ones with actual speed cameras in them they didn't have to tell anyone. Ask me how I know?

And when the ACT introduced number plate scanning cameras onto Police cars years ago, the justification was for hunting vehicles of interest used in violent crime, gang members, known criminals etc. Which quietly got expanded to include those evildoers who forgot to renew their rego...

Bigjaype said:

Yes, the number plate recognition technology has come a long way. In fact, what they do here now, is park a van with a small camera outside. The pursuit cars sit about 200 metres down the road. By the time you've passed the camera and get close to the cops, they already have all your info. Expired registration, outstanding fines or warrants etc. and they pull you over.

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They want us all sitting calm, upright, with hands politely crossed on our laps, as we’re commuted single file, like children on an amusement ride. All wrapped in a safe little bubble of conformity, and obedience.

Amazing

gadget_ho said:

Yeah mate, it has become fairly ridiculous down under lately. NSW has removed all the markings from their roadside cars and it's not until you pass the little "your speed has been checked" sign up the road you know you've been done. And they have those mobile cameras cruising up and down the freeways as well.

In the ACT we had the older box-style red light camera that just snapped an image on red, but they always had a "speed and red light camera ahead" sign leading up to them so when they quietly switched them out for the odd vertical oval ones with actual speed cameras in them they didn't have to tell anyone. Ask me how I know?

And when the ACT introduced number plate scanning cameras onto Police cars years ago, the justification was for hunting vehicles of interest used in violent crime, gang members, known criminals etc. Which quietly got expanded to include those evildoers who forgot to renew their rego...

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coincidence how government inevitably never fails to marry safety with revenue . Yet never connects the dots between migration, and infrastructure.

Torquex2 said:

They want us all sitting calm, upright, with hands politely crossed on our laps, as we’re commuted single file, like children on an amusement ride. All wrapped in a safe little bubble of conformity, and obedience.

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It's called a "train."

gadget_ho said:

Yeah mate, it has become fairly ridiculous down under lately. NSW has removed all the markings from their roadside cars and it's not until you pass the little "your speed has been checked" sign up the road you know you've been done.

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Except that they don"t even put up the little signs anymore......before or after the camera....

ruzzle said:

Except that they don"t even put up the little signs anymore......before or after the camera....

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But it's still all about safety - when your widow gets the fine in the mail, she'll know for sure speeding is bad...

gadget_ho said:

But it's still all about safety - when your widow gets the fine in the mail, she'll know for sure speeding is bad...

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A number of years ago I was riding last in a group of 6 riders in Scottsdale,AZ. I’m Canadian but keep a Gold Wing at my winter place in Mesa. Everyone got through a traffic light but it was definitely going to be red before I entered the intersection so I stopped. When it changed to green I sped up and got back with the group. A week later I get a REALLY clear photo of myself on my bike, plus a link to a very clear 5 second video of myself, doing 13 mph over the speed limit. It was taken as I was catching up to the group. The ticket for 13 mph over the limit was $273 in REAL US greenbacks. You can reduce the cost by signing up for their ‘retraining’ class but I said screw it and paid the fine by mail. Online research taught me 2 things. Scottsdale's red light/speeding camera system is actually owned by an Australian company (or a foreign company at least) and they get HALF of every ticket issued AND the intersection BEGINS at the asphalt edge of the cross street (so their online training program said). Regardless, the whole red light/speeding camera system in Scottsdale is a HUGE money maker for the city. Now I am VERRRRY careful riding in Scottsdale.