oil tank removal

zimtuff · Apr 22, 2011

How hard is it to take the oil tank off? The manual says to remove the throttle bodies. Ive never pulled anything off like that before. Ive done diesel fuel injection and pulled manifolds and carbs from cars.

Why,I got interupted about 17 times trying to refill the oil in the rocket and went a bit over full. Rather than drain it at the bottom and waste a new oil washer,I decided to use my oil pump.
As I was removing it from the tank ,an extension on the pump fell into the tank.ullhairout:
Its PLASTIC about 4 inches long and 1/2 inch in diameter

I redrained the tank and have been scratching around in there with mirrors,light probe,wire and a grab device.
No luck after a 4 hours.
I can almost get it out ,but its slippery.
Doesnt seem to be much chance of falling any lower,or is there?

ruzzle · Apr 22, 2011

I wouldn't reckon there's any chance of it going any lower... have a look at the two pipes to/from the crankcase - you can see them under the tank.

But the plastic tube could conceivably block/restrict the oil pipe feeding the engine, so it really oughta come out. Somehow! Think of the tube being in a washbasin full of water, pull the plug out, the tube will get sucked straight to the hole.

Think I'd be persevering with the groping around stuff meself......

Make sure you get it sorted in time for the Salvo next year.

Willtill · Apr 22, 2011

idk said:
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.

No. Actually....

Experience is born from past mistakes. :mrgreen:

MountainMan · Apr 22, 2011

Experience is the best educator.

It has to be because it's the most expensive.

Fred F. · Apr 22, 2011

idk said:
It is a PITA to get the oil tank off. You will need to drain the oil. You will need to remove the throttle bodies. That is easier to do if you remove the fuel tank, which is not hard, but adds to the job. (You should replace the crush washers on the banjo joint, but the old ones will often work.) If you have the original air plumbing then you will have to remove some of that. (Another great reason to go triple filters.) You should replace the rubber seals on the oil tank. You will have to make sure that you line the oil tank correctly when you put it back, or it will leak.

When you remove the throttle bodies you will find three clamps which are carefully designed to be inaccesible, and use a tool size that is not used for anything else - anywhere in the world, I think. When you replace them, try to point them in directions that can be accessed without the use of creative language.

Next time drain the oil from the bottom. I have used the drain crush washers 2 or 3 times each without problems.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.

I think that I would get some cheap forceps with sharpish teeth and try to remove the tube using them before pulling everything apart.

While we are on the subject, last spring when it was still cold out my oil tank leaked a little from underneath. I ordered the o-rings but by the time I got them the weather had warmed and no more leak. Put about 7,000 miles on it last summer. Now it's cold out again and was leaking again. After hearing the horror stories about removing the tank I decided to try something. I loosened all three bolts then grabbed the tank a moved it around and let it find it's happy spot, tightened it back up and Presto ! no more leak. It was just barley 40 degrees the other day a still not a drop. It's worth a try if your leaking, before opting for surgery.

Blastedbones · Apr 22, 2011

What you NEED is one of those flexy tools with the extendable sprung claw on the end.. Brilliant for grabbing awkward, hard to reach, stuff.Real cheap from any auto place.

barbagris · Apr 22, 2011

blastedbones said:
What you NEED is one of those flexy tools with the extendable sprung claw on the end.. Brilliant for grabbing awkward, hard to reach, stuff.Real cheap from any auto place.

Not sure I like the idea though

zimtuff · Apr 22, 2011

blastedbones said:
What you NEED is one of those flexy tools with the extendable sprung claw on the end.. Brilliant for grabbing awkward, hard to reach, stuff.Real cheap from any auto place.

Ive got one but the tube falls off just as it starts to come out. Ive been thinking some forceps would be better as IDK suggested. I threw some in the bin last month,no idea where I can buy some more

zimtuff · Apr 22, 2011

idk said:
It is a PITA to get the oil tank off. You will need to drain the oil. You will need to remove the throttle bodies. That is easier to do if you remove the fuel tank, which is not hard, but adds to the job. (You should replace the crush washers on the banjo joint, but the old ones will often work.) If you have the original air plumbing then you will have to remove some of that. (Another great reason to go triple filters.) You should replace the rubber seals on the oil tank. You will have to make sure that you line the oil tank correctly when you put it back, or it will leak.

When you remove the throttle bodies you will find three clamps which are carefully designed to be inaccesible, and use a tool size that is not used for anything else - anywhere in the world, I think. When you replace them, try to point them in directions that can be accessed without the use of creative language.

Next time drain the oil from the bottom. I have used the drain crush washers 2 or 3 times each without problems.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.

I think that I would get some cheap forceps with sharpish teeth and try to remove the tube using them before pulling everything apart.

I thought as much, Ill spend the morning digging around some more.What kind of shop would sell forceps?

zimtuff · Apr 23, 2011

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