Ha ha Haa your right it's a wonder I haven't been punished for my sins already let's hope it's not a can of worms, to be honest I've not seen the bike for 16 months of that, only wheeled her out 2 day's ago it has 39000km on it, the engine is nice and tight always given it the best fluids and care apart from the odd thrashing not happy till I find a problem lol an occasional faint tink tink on tickover when hot other than that sweet as torqued nut... Think I'm referring to myself there kind of sends you that way when you can't put your finger on the problem but many hands on here pointing in the right direction has helped me no end since joing the R3 owners. Net as I would have been truly up the creek in these parts thanks again for the input and support provided.