You guys that discriminate, whether it be Hardleys or othere makes or models or whatever, sure miss out on some cool bikes. That's actually probably a good thing for your wallets, however. Me, I rarely meet a bike I don't like. I have to limit my purchases to what meets my needs/desires at the time. Here's a funny for you. When I first got back into riding (quit riding when our twins were born), I got a Speedmaster and liked the bike real well; just got a larger bike when the wife decided to start riding with me (got a Heritage Softail; loved the bike). As Scot said, we got to ride every Triumph model this past weekend. My least favorite was the Speedmaster. lol