Ethanol free gas

[Lemieuxfan]

i will say from my trip back to TN from Georgia- i didn't see any stations with ethanol free gas in GA they all had the 10 percent. Not sure why...

 

[Baloo]

I find the fuel grading confusing. I hear talk (or read actually) RON figures in the 80's. Here in the UK our standard is 95 RON , super unleaded as it's more commonly known here, is usually 97 RON but occasionally 99. I've been all over the country and never seen ethanol free, or alcohol free, and don't suspect there's any corn syrup in any grade. Does this explain why our fuel is so much more expensive (I thought it was only down to government extortion), or do we have different fuel.

 

[cootertwo]

Excellent question, maybe BP has an answer.

 

[Ishrub]

It is the no subsidy, tariff free, free trade that the capitalist system espouses isn't it? NOT!!!

A 10% ethanol fuel blend virtually forced on an entire country to satisfy the agricultural lobbyists demands to keep the corn prices elevated though artificial markets and subsidies. Similar scam with sugar cane where corporate 'farmers' who never put a boot on dirt in their lives claim Agricultural subsidies and tax dodges in the billions originally intended to pork barrel inefficient and uneconomic small holding farmers. The small holding farmers should have gone with the dinosaurs or make a 'lifestyle' decision at their own cost rather than forcing the rest of society to pay for it just as deliberately job dodging welfare recipients are.

The corporate agriculturists who have vast, modern and efficient production acreage do not need those subsidies and tax dodges to survive but they simply keep paying lobbyists and politicians to keep them in place to keep creaming extra cash off the population.

 

[scot in exile]

we all meet em...Met a Guy at the gas station . R3R very rare here as die hard Harley country. Says he loves bike and then proceeded to wax lyrical for ages about how I should use Ethanol free gas.

Is there any merit to running a tank full of this through every now and again?

Now as you hail from the Great City of Liverpool and as we all know you scousers get your gas thru a rubber hose it will all come down to taste preference, does eth or noneth taste better. I was calling Henderson some choice words the other day but it all came good in the end.

 

[Old N' Grumpy]

My take is ethanol free is great for small engines or any engine that sits for long periods. My leafblower had 95 octane ethanol free and fired up first pull after sitting a year. When I used to put 10% ethanol in if I didn't run them by 3-4 months the carbs were all gummed up and had to be disassembled and cleaned. You're not going to see or feel a difference in the Rocket or the car because you use them frequently. In Florida all the WaWa stations have ethanol free and I believe its mid grade.

 

[Baloo]

Excellent question, maybe BP has an answer.

I got impatient and decided to Google it:

In the UK, Octane on fuels is quoted as ‘RON’ or ‘Research Octane Number.’ Without going into great detail as far as methodology, there is another common measurement system called ‘MON’ or ‘Motor Octane Number.’ MON typically yields a numerical value 10 points lower than RON from the same sample of fuel.

The Octane number quoted on the pump (PON or Pump Octane Number) in the USA and Canada is an average of RON & MON (RON + MON / 2.) So if you are comparing UK & USA fuel, you typically need to add 5-6 points to a USA Octane number to get the EU equivalent.

 

[barbagris]

As far as I know - UNLESS it specifically says so on the pump (and would then be considered a BIO additive and SHOULD be cheaper) - There is NO ETHANOL in EU fuel.
There are areas of Spain with BIO pumps but usually very much fringe places - not part of the big groups.
Base line EuroSuper is 95RON and is a homologated across all the EU. The SuperPlus here is 98Octane. An R3 does not need 98 - tbh it does not really need 95.

But this is NOT the reason EU fuel is more expensive. It's TAX - pure and simple.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

I always buy the cheapest **** I can find. Never had any fuel related problems

 

[Baloo]

I always put super in her, usually 97RON but 99 when I can. I'm not convinced it's better, but for such a minor price difference it's not hurting anything.