Electrical Gremlins Part 4

[Son_Of_Dog]

How about you feel it open and close with your finger on it? Its not a trick like mad dog has done to ya it wont bite ya like that shotgun

Dammit Kevin

 

[Son_Of_Dog]

OK i am tellimg u wrong i mean my other left
the right side should b the starter relay that is the one we should be checking.

Doesn't start without that one either, and notably, the blinkers still work. 5 blades

 

[TURBO200R4]

Doesn't start without that one either, and notably, the blinkers still work. 5 blades

ok now we r getting somewhere that is the suspected culprit.
it wont do any good to hold it if it has a problem it is going to b on the inside where the points fail. if u want to post a pic i can tell u which blades to cross over to test when it fails. crossing will turn over motor
of coarse the best way is to replace it then see if problem continues or not.
i am not the best at explaining so if u have a question just yell.

 

[Son_Of_Dog]

ok now we r getting somewhere that is the suspected culprit.
it wont do any good to hold it if it has a problem it is going to b on the inside where the points fail. if u want to post a pic i can tell u which blades to cross over to test when it fails. crossing will turn over motor
of coarse the best way is to replace it then see if problem continues or not.
i am not the best at explaining so if u have a question just yell.

Here are pictures.

 

[DEcosse]

There isnt a starter relay on touring ....

Emmm - there IS!

 

[TURBO200R4]

BOTTOM PIC
30 would b power from ign (at thumb) and 87 should b to starter solenoid
by crossing these to u should b able to send power to the starter solenoid causing the motor to crank unless thee starter solenoid/starter is bad
of coarse i am talking about crossing at the connector this test will only b good if it has the problem.
i see u have a mechanics thumb.
if u get a new relay u can try to break the glue holding the cap on the relay then take a look at the points. also u can plug it in to watch it work i have one that i use as a tool so i can see it work and b able to apply power or ground where i want. it makes it easy to diagnose electric problems

 

[Kevin frazier]

Emmm - there IS!

Thank you, i knew you knew and you explained it to me 2yrs ago. I was searching right now for where you walked me through that. Sorry guys for the wrong info

 

[TURBO200R4]

thanks for the diagram i have been to busy at the shop to research that.
@DEcosse jump in any time we always value your opinion and appreciate your help.

 

[Son_Of_Dog]

So the 5 bladed relay is the one I should replace, provided that it has gone bad. Otherwise, there's something wrong in the starter assembly that's preventing the starter motor from getting juice when the bendix gear is engaged. That could really only be the connection from the starter motor to the plunger/contactor part, right? The "click" that I've mentioned before sounds an awful lot like the contactor or plunger or whatever it's called inside of the starter engaging, not like a relay click.

 

[TURBO200R4]

I would just replace that relay that may cure problem if it doesnt then u have a spare.
U will know what the problem is when u fix it.
More than likely it is the starter solenoid but i usually change out the cheaper things first.
U might want to do the toy upgrade starter with solenoid.