9000rpm TuneECU map

WyldCFH · Apr 26, 2018

Neville Lush said:
The shims will not spit out because of rpm unless there is a problem with valve springs etc. If any of you are old enough to have owned an early Z900 Kawasaki, they could be turned well beyond 9000 with no problem, TT350 Yammy 10K, FJ110 Yammy 11K. The reason for putting the shims under the bucket on a rocket is to save weight on the reciprocating valve parts and to enable a lager lift cam to be used. The cam is running on a 28mm bucket instead of a 25mm shim. If you want a rpm limit at 13000 it can be done, even with a PCV and ign module you could up it to 11k. There is no "secret". STOCK springs are beyond there design brief above 7000rpm especially for any length of time.

So it's not the shim placement, it's the springs working capability. Good info to know.

Claviger · Apr 26, 2018

Exactly and the valve float leads to shims getting spit out, or potentially getting spit out.

The Subaru guys have been fighting this since forever, quite a few dead motors because of it.

R-III-R Turbo said:
I've mapped 2010, 2013, 2017 Roadster ECUs with the same map - how did that work?

Well hell, I’ll give it a try and see if it works lol. Most interesting if it does as it means Allain has changed something in the base tune from the normal public files.

R-III-R Turbo · Apr 27, 2018

Neville Lush said:
If you want a rpm limit at 13000 it can be done

Theoretical top speed of 347mph @13k rpm don't be giving me ideas

Claviger said:
Well hell, I’ll give it a try and see if it works lol. Most interesting if it does as it means Allain has changed something in the base tune from the normal public files.

that 2017 was a spares ECU, came in a box and not a bike. Might be a difference.

anyway i have a theory. there's an unlock ECU function in the Triumph software i have, just needs a password (which i also have lol)
in order to test it i need a '13.5 or newer Roadster ECU.
I have a 2013 ECU here as a spare, could send it to you to free up your '14 ECU to send to me for the test?

Goal is to see if we can unlock newer ECUs to map it without restrictions

Claviger · Apr 28, 2018

Im game, but, I’ll snag a second ECU to ship to you. I have too much planned in the near future to have my bike down if I can help it at all.

PM me your mailing address and let’s see if we can crack this riddle!

R-III-R Turbo · Apr 28, 2018

good stuff it'd be nice to bust the myth if possible.

sure you can check bike/8k map runs ok on the 2013 (March) ECU before you ship your '14 one, so you will have no downtime

Claviger · Apr 28, 2018

R-III-R Turbo said:
good stuff it'd be nice to bust the myth if possible.

sure you can check bike/8k map runs ok on the 2013 (March) ECU before you ship your '14 one, so you will have no downtime

Yep let’s finally figure out Triumphs madness lol

R-III-R Turbo · May 23, 2018

Claviger said:
Yep let’s finally figure out Triumphs madness lol

Any update @Claviger , did you run with the 2013 ECU i sent?

Claviger · May 23, 2018

Sorry mate, been slow as **** with this. It did not, I’ll have it back in the mail to you tomorrow and PM you tracking info.

R-III-R Turbo · Sep 10, 2018

Joesmoe said:
Silly question: does it have to be Roadster ? I thought Roadster and Touring marched together with engine components and ECUs ?

Fingers said:
Paul the R3T has a different ecu

Joesmoe said:
I see the different part numbers, and wonder what is different beside the trigger for the tachometer ?

warp9.9 said:
I suspect it is just different software programming language and communicating with the gauges and their differences.

Joesmoe said:
So anything to prevent a TUNEcu map not working in both ECUs ?

Tripps said:
As far as I know, they don't.

warp9.9 said:
Yes if the map program syntax is different. It be like trying to stuff a 2007 classic tune into yours.

Curiosity got the better of me so had a gawk at the part numbers etc - and it appears the Roadster and Touring have the same ECU (but obviously different maps)?

I wonder did this amalgamation of part numbers come about in mid 2013 when Triumph started selling bikes (and spare ECUs) locked with no map loaded - the dealer (or cowboy with the Triumph software and password list ) has to unlock and load it with a map...?
(and before 2013, Roadster and Tourings had same ECUs physically but different maps, loaded in the factory, and hence different part numbers)??

My 2010 ECU had T1290650 printed on it, so does the (early) 2013 one I have, "ECU, XC, BASE", but now that part is listed as superseded by T1299300, I got one of these T1299300s last year and it looks/fits/works identical to the 2010 and 2013s I've used...

Touring ECU part number: T1299300 - ECM Base
Roadster ECU part number: T1299300 - ECM Base
Standard, Classic ECU part number: T1299302 - ECU, C20XB, BASE

@Joesmoe are you feeling brave, wanna try a Roadster map in your Touring?

TURBO200R4 said:
one more question
will these roadster tunes fit my 07classic?

Sorry dude never answered, I don't think it will, it's a map based on 20355, a T1299300 type ECU map

Steel · Sep 10, 2018

R-III-R Turbo said:
Curiosity got the better of me so had a gawk at the part numbers etc - and it appears the Roadster and Touring have the same ECU (but obviously different maps)?

I wonder did this amalgamation of part numbers come about in mid 2013 when Triumph started selling bikes (and spare ECUs) locked with no map loaded - the dealer (or cowboy with the Triumph software and password list ) has to unlock and load it with a map...?
(and before 2013, Roadster and Tourings had same ECUs physically but different maps, loaded in the factory, and hence different part numbers)??

My 2010 ECU had T1290650 printed on it, so does the (early) 2013 one I have, "ECU, XC, BASE", but now that part is listed as superseded by T1299300, I got one of these T1299300s last year and it looks/fits/works identical to the 2010 and 2013s I've used...

Touring ECU part number: T1299300 - ECM Base
Roadster ECU part number: T1299300 - ECM Base
Standard, Classic ECU part number: T1299302 - ECU, C20XB, BASE

@Joesmoe are you feeling brave, wanna try a Roadster map in your Touring?

Sorry dude never answered, I don't think it will, it's a map based on 20355, a T1299300 type ECU map

Is there any way to get a high rpm map for the older bikes, and paste the tables from the newer map?

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