Mittzy just a question for you.

[bruce aussie]

Was in Team Moto Triumph Springwood today I mentioned I had a Power Comander 5 in my R3R. The bloke at the service counter ( I didn't get his name ) asked why. I said so when I got it dyno'd they could tune it and get it running right. Plus there service department a bloke named Ben told me to get a PC5 and get it dyno'd when I put the 3 into 1 pipe on when the bike was new. As they were hopeless and couldn't get it to run very well at all. Well good old ( I didn't get his name ) said I wasted my money as the standard Triumph ECU is infinatly more programable than a Power Commander 5. If I go to Fred at Procycle he will unhook the PC5 and tune my bike to perfection as he did with ( I didn't get his name's) speed triple. I said I was talking Rocket not Speed triple, he said didn't matter.
All that being said I didn't think there was anything wrong with the way my bike was running anyway.

Just a question for Mittzy when Fred at Procycle dyno'd your bike last week did he mention any of this or disable your PC5?

Seems every time I go near Moss st I come away feeling like Iv'e just been fed a fair bit of bull****.

 

[ponters]

Gday Bruce, don't know what Mittzys answer will be but I can tell you I got rid of my pc commander so I could tune it properly.

My dealer sold me one for the tours tune. Nev says it was easier to do without it

 

[Mittzy]

G'day Bruce,
Fred said the PCV was useless on the R3, he tunes the ecu to the bike. He knows his stuff.

 

[bruce aussie]

So you never had a PC5. I thought you fitted one? Sounds like mabey I wasted $400.00.

 

[Mittzy]

So you never had a PC5. I thought you fitted one? Sounds like mabey I wasted $400.00.

Nup never ever had one....... I tried to get ponters old one but I think it was spoken for....
Just lucky for me..... Maybe Fred was just saying that cos I was getting the dyno tune done?

 

[Evil Mitch]

Bruce the only reason most people go with power commander is because most dyno places only use dynojet technology there aren't many around these days that can tune without it. I also went down the powercomander path as I used powerhouse dynotuning and freds shop wasn't around that I knew of back then. As for power commander being useless well that is absolutely incorrect its just not needed if u can find someone who can still tune without it "few and far between" The only thing I would say is im fairly sure the bigger hp bikes need power commander "im not talking 240hp bikes but the ones closer to 300+ with bigger injectors as the standard ecu isn't capable but I could be wrong . so either way nothing wrong with power commander just not needed if u have someone like fred tuning your bike.

 

[Mittzy]

Bruce the only reason most people go with power commander is because most dyno places only use dynojet technology there aren't many around these days that can tune without it. I also went down the powercomander path as I used powerhouse dynotuning and freds shop wasn't around that I knew of back then. As for power commander being useless well that is absolutely incorrect its just not needed if u can find someone who can still tune without it "few and far between" The only thing I would say is im fairly sure the bigger hp bikes need power commander "im not talking 240hp bikes but the ones closer to 300+ with bigger injectors as the standard ecu isn't capable but I could be wrong . so either way nothing wrong with power commander just not needed if u have someone like fred tuning your bike.

Yes that is what Fred meant " useless for my R3" with Fred's tune, just to clarify
Sorry if I clouded things there....... Just pretty new at this.......
Thanks for clarifying Mitch.

 

[Dennsell]

Even with it's limitations I am very happy with my PCv +AT and the tunes that Hans kindly gave me..
I would never say it is better than a Dyno tune, but it serves me well for what I want.

Dyno Technoligy in my opinion is only as good as the operating tech, you guys are lucky to have Nev and Fred close by..

JMHO

 

[Evil Mitch]

Even with it's limitations I am very happy with my PCv +AT and the tunes that Hans kindly gave me..
I would never say it is better than a Dyno tune, but it serves me well for what I want.

Dyno Technoligy in my opinion is only as good as the operating tech, you guys are lucky to have Nev and Fred close by..

JMHO

Yeah I still had mine dynoed but using the pcv just couldnt find anyone at the time who could operate without it . When I go into a single muffler ill probably add auto tune since I already have the pcv and just let it make the adjustments needed . Until ofcourse funds allow a trip to nev lush in victer harbour

 

[bruce aussie]

I'm not complaning about my PC5 I'm very happy with the way my bike runs since Mark at Serco dyno'd it. 136.97 horse power and 154.61 ft-lbs with standard airfilter, standard headers and a single muffler. I just don't understand this ECU stuff. When it ran like crap from new, surging and hunting at low revs in 1st and 2nd gear corners and backfiring through the intake when you give it a rev on the down shift to the extent of stalling. I took it back to Springwood they said the standard ECU could only have one of three different tunes loaded into it standard, tors, or European. They loaded the Tors tune in it and it made it worse to ride. There final word was they all run like that if you want to get it better you need a PC5 and a dyno so thats what I did. Now today 2years later the same shop tells me the standard ECU is much better than a PC5 and I wasted $400.00 I'm thinkin there all talking through there arse.

On a happier note Iv'e been thinking about getting triple filters, would be interesting to get it dyno'd by Fred to get a comparison with standard headers and single muffler and Mittzy's Reband pipes.