GIPro confusion

[moklodge]

I recently ordered a GIPro. I have TORS, Cat Bypass, Underseat K&N and Triumph tune 20226 for tors and bypass. Secondaries are still there.

With tune 20226, the secondary maps show identical openings for all gears at all rpms. Will the GIPro still do what it promises or is it simply designed to fool the ECU into thinking the bike is in a higher gear (4th or 5th)? If this is the case, then I would need the standard tune (stock pipes and cat) in order for the GIPro to do it's thing but the fuel ratios would now be way off with the tors and bypass installed.

I know I'll be told I need a tuneboy but the more I read, the more scared I become about the tuneboy. I'm not a scientist nor am I ready to make that commitment moneywise and effortwise.

I really don't want to remove the secondaries but I'm starting to think that's the only way to use tune 20226 and get full juice all the time.

Help!

 

[Bishop]

I'm not a scientist nor am I ready to make that commitment moneywise and effortwise.

Then you shoulda left it stock.

 

[xhdskip]

just go ahead and remove the secondaries.
It ain't no big deal, but you'll sure notice the difference.

 

[moklodge]

Thanks xdhskip, I'm thinking that's how I'll need to go. Hoping somebody knows how the GIPro works first before I mess with the motor. Motor stuff makes me nervous.

 

[Navigator]

Okay, I'll say it. You need to get TuneBoy. Even if you aren't a rocket scientist, yet, you can learn to do simple things easily, and gradually learn more as you go. Its diagnostic capability alone is worth the price of admission, IMHO.

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Just ask Owl.

 

[Navigator]

Thanks xdhskip, I'm thinking that's how I'll need to go. Hoping somebody knows how the GIPro works first before I mess with the motor. Motor stuff makes me nervous.

It is an easy install with very clear directions.

 

[NM ROCKET]

I'm getting the GiPro mainly to get rid of the speed limiter but like Skip said you will definatly notice the difference if you remove the secondaries. It is verry easy to remove the secondaries if you decide to do it. PM me and I'll give you a step by step or a phone # and walk you through it.

 

[NativeOne]

Just to let you in on a little secret, with Gi Pro you don't really need to remove the secondaries as they are opened the whole time anyway. Why remove them when you install the GiPro and they are open in first through fifth gear anyway? When Greg and I were installing the triple filters and the Preds, we noticed the bike was in first gear, moved it to second, third, etc, and the secondaries ARE open in every gear with the Gipro installed.

Native One

 

[moklodge]

Thank you everyone for the advice. I really appreciate the offers to help. This is a priceless site.

Native One, that is exactly what I needed to know. Does it matter what tune you have? I'm concerned that, with the Triumph 20226 tune for the tors, that if the GIPro simply fools the ECU into thinking it's in 4th or 5th, it won't make a difference since the secondaries are closed the same in all gears at the same rpms in that tune.

 

[atomsplitter]

Thank you everyone for the advice. I really appreciate the offers to help. This is a priceless site.

Native One, that is exactly what I needed to know. Does it matter what tune you have? I'm concerned that, with the Triumph 20226 tune for the tors, that if the GIPro simply fools the ECU into thinking it's in 4th or 5th, it won't make a difference since the secondaries are closed the same in all gears at the same rpms in that tune.

Keep your current tune. The Gipro bypasses the gear sensor and sends a high gear signal to the ECM so the secondaries only throttle when the bike is in neutral and idling. Putting it in gear the stepper motor opens the secondaries wide for full thrust. The limitation was put in to restrict torque to 90% in the first three gears. The Gipro allows full torque in all gears but doesn't affect tune. The Tuneboy allows you to do the same thing by removing the limitation directly at the ECM, so the secondaries open when put in gear. The diffrerence is minor for affecting the secondaries, but just the Tuneboy allows you to fine tune your ride on the dyno, the Gipro only tells you what gear you are in. So for a "plug and play" the Gipro is OK, but if you want to maximize the motor's potential, the Tuneboy is a must.