Remap?

[Torque for England]

It would be interesting to see what percentage of you have remapped your MkII Rocket 3's?

 

[atomsplitter]

It would be interesting to see what percentage of you have remapped your MkII Rocket 3's?

No remapping is necessary if you just want all the power that's been restricted by simply changing the settings for throttle settings in the ETV tables (using TuneECU). There's a great video on how to do it on Youtube to "unleash the beast" and doesn't require dyno testing or anything else (other than TuneECU and some patience on your part). One word of caustion is that when you do load a changed map into your ECU you'll lose Cruise Control until you do the switch check (I found this out the hard way). Remapping is beneficial only if you change the exhaust out and disable the SAI. So depending on what you're shooting for will determine the extent of EFI mods you'll need to make.

 

[Jagster]

No remapping is necessary if you just want all the power that's been restricted by simply changing the settings for throttle settings in the ETV tables (using TuneECU). There's a great video on how to do it on Youtube to "unleash the beast" and doesn't require dyno testing or anything else (other than TuneECU and some patience on your part). One word of caustion is that when you do load a changed map into your ECU you'll lose Cruise Control until you do the switch check (I found this out the hard way). Remapping is beneficial only if you change the exhaust out and disable the SAI. So depending on what you're shooting for will determine the extent of EFI mods you'll need to make.

I would have thought changing the throttle settings is a re-mapping process. Not tuning. Just re-mapping.

 

[atomsplitter]

I would have thought changing the throttle settings is a re-mapping process. Not tuning. Just re-mapping.

When I think "mapping" it's changing air/fuel ratios on a table. The ETV settings are simply a percentage of throttle at a given RPM in a table. It is remapping to the extent any changes have to be downloaded to the ECU as a reflash, however the AF, L, etc tables aren't affected, just how much the throttle plates are open at a given RPM. If you look at the ETV tables for the Rocket 3, there are 3 tables (rain, road, sport). The SPORT table is restricted from the factory to like 76% at WOT. You change those tables to gain the HP back (Richard Albans dyno showed about 30 HP more). YOu can also add some RPM by moving the redline (rev limiter) up adding more juice higher in the rev range. The map is flashed (if you call 20 minutes a flash) and then viola, more power in SPORT. And again when you do that complete the process by doing your Cruise Control Switch check to recover your cruise.

 

[OldBiker72]

When I think "mapping" it's changing air/fuel ratios on a table. The ETV settings are simply a percentage of throttle at a given RPM in a table. It is remapping to the extent any changes have to be downloaded to the ECU as a reflash, however the AF, L, etc tables aren't affected, just how much the throttle plates are open at a given RPM. If you look at the ETV tables for the Rocket 3, there are 3 tables (rain, road, sport). The SPORT table is restricted from the factory to like 76% at WOT. You change those tables to gain the HP back (Richard Albans dyno showed about 30 HP more). YOu can also add some RPM by moving the redline (rev limiter) up adding more juice higher in the rev range. The map is flashed (if you call 20 minutes a flash) and then viola, more power in SPORT. And again when you do that complete the process by doing your Cruise Control Switch check to recover your cruise.

I'm going to do a TuneECU map on my GT. I have already adapted the tables in ETV1. My question is where do I find the Cruise Control Switch check to recover cruise control? Will a map affect my quick shifter? Regards!

 

[atomsplitter]

I'm going to do a TuneECU map on my GT. I have already adapted the tables in ETV1. My question is where do I find the Cruise Control Switch check to recover cruise control? Will a map affect my quick shifter? Regards!

The cruise is lost if you reset adaptations. If you do that you have to cycle through all the switches that affect the cruise, so actuate the foot brake, front brake, roll throttle full off, actuate the cruise rocker fore and aft and that will restore cruise function. Make sure you also checked all the boxes for the other cylinders for ETV table changes. The map will NOT affect your quickshifter. That unit is controlled by the ECU and not the maps in the ECU.

 

[Torque for England]

When I think "mapping" it's changing air/fuel ratios on a table. The ETV settings are simply a percentage of throttle at a given RPM in a table. It is remapping to the extent any changes have to be downloaded to the ECU as a reflash, however the AF, L, etc tables aren't affected, just how much the throttle plates are open at a given RPM. If you look at the ETV tables for the Rocket 3, there are 3 tables (rain, road, sport). The SPORT table is restricted from the factory to like 76% at WOT. You change those tables to gain the HP back (Richard Albans dyno showed about 30 HP more). YOu can also add some RPM by moving the redline (rev limiter) up adding more juice higher in the rev range. The map is flashed (if you call 20 minutes a flash) and then viola, more power in SPORT. And again when you do that complete the process by doing your Cruise Control Switch check to recover your cruise.

When I spoke to the service guy at West London Triumph he said do it that way if you want to bugger up your engine. He said if you want full power take it to someone like TTS Performance and get it done properly.

 

[atomsplitter]

When I spoke to the service guy at West London Triumph he said do it that way if you want to bugger up your engine. He said if you want full power take it to someone like TTS Performance and get it done properly.

Actually you aren't "buggering" anything, the Electronic Throttle Valve settings in SPORT mode are restricted in the factory settings. The only thing TuneECU does in those tables is change how much the throttle is open. So for SPORT instead of 76% open at W.O.T. you can set it for 100% and get the full power. There's a video on Youtube from Richard Albans of TTS that shows how to do it and on his dyno the bike gains 30HP and about 7 Ft-Lbs of torque with just reprogramming throttle settings and leaving the fuel maps completely alone. You can also up the red line some to put more power to the top of the rev range, None of that will "bugger" the motor. To screw it up you would have to change fueling or ignition timing, neither of which are addressed in the ETV tables.

 

[OldBiker72]

The cruise is lost if you reset adaptations. If you do that you have to cycle through all the switches that affect the cruise, so actuate the foot brake, front brake, roll throttle full off, actuate the cruise rocker fore and aft and that will restore cruise function. Make sure you also checked all the boxes for the other cylinders for ETV table changes. The map will NOT affect your quickshifter. That unit is controlled by the ECU and not the maps in the ECU.

Many thanks! I saw on the TuneECU FB page it is not recommended to do adaptations but rather do the 10 min. idle after the remap. You agree? By saying "Make sure you also checked all the boxes for the other cylinders for ETV table changes" does this imply ticking the boxes when saving the adapted file? I only changed ETV3... Regards!

 

[atomsplitter]

Many thanks! I saw on the TuneECU FB page it is not recommended to do adaptations but rather do the 10 min. idle after the remap. You agree? By saying "Make sure you also checked all the boxes for the other cylinders for ETV table changes" does this imply ticking the boxes when saving the adapted file? I only changed ETV3... Regards!

If you leave the adaptations alone the cruise is unaffected. When you finished the changes on the ETV page and then clicked to save it should have popped up some boxes, you should have checked all those too. That gets the throttle changes for the other cylinders throttle bodies and all gears. Here's a video, around the 8 minute mark he says not to check the boxes, however he corrects himself in the comments section and says to check all the boxes: