tdragger is right about chaps at this side of the pond the only blokes that wear them here dance in night clubs with other blokes to kylie minogue. La la la lalalalala
. Taking that into consideration i went for my first ever warm water proof trousers in 39yrs of riding. Now i've got them i wish i'd done it years ago, me knees might still bend properly if i had hung up my levis in favour of a pair of textile cargo trousers. Fit like jeans but with pockets on the thighs, all black with no silly logos and a zip out thermal lining. I left the knee protectors in for extra warmth for my poor little knee's but took the hip protector out cos they stuck in my leg. Can't really fault them for £50 and they won't go baggy at the knee like leather.