electrics!!!

[albertaduke]

I generally hates electrics and sure enough I get this frustrating problem of an electric nature
explanation I decided to change the back turn indicators I reconnected the wires properly I also changed the rear light as well,I tested before buttoning everything and all lights worked as they are supposed to ...for 5 minutes then the left rear blinker stopped blinking actually it went dead no power then the right went dead and the flasher relay started making a whirring noise I figured the relay is shot bought another relay from triumph incidentally priced at $85 (highway robbery when an automotive relay is only $10 )I also bought the $10 relay back to the problem I hookup the new relay turn the ignition and... no power to the turn signal no flashing neither left nor right ..but the main rear light start FLASHING with either left or right selection and a faint light in the front turn signal as well as the yellow parking lights inside the head lights I look up the diagrams and I cannot find a common cause nor why the main rear light flashes when turn signal are selected any ideas from the electric brains out there!!
I should mention these new blinkers I installed are regular bulbs not LEDs

 

[CanberraR3]

I actually have no idea, but ...........
Are the new lights drawing the same power? Or a pinched wire? Maybe the wiring got too hot and melted through the insulation somewhere.

 

[HansO]

are the new lights earthing thru the indicator bodies if so double check the polarity on the wires going in to make sure the positiveis not the one earthing, the std indicators did not earth thru the body so never a risk, If think it was actually Richard that had polarity all mixed up on his standard ones and and to change the wires around when he went LED, I know you said you do not have LED's but your new one might be earthing thru the bodies is the point I am trying to make, that or as Richard said you may have developed a short but I think it is more likely an earthing problem

 

[crashpete]

Check your fuses as well, maybe a faulty light.

 

[albertaduke]

I generally hates electrics and sure enough I get this frustrating problem of an electric nature
explanation I decided to change the back turn indicators I reconnected the wires properly I also changed the rear light as well,I tested before buttoning everything and all lights worked as they are supposed to ...for 5 minutes then the left rear blinker stopped blinking actually it went dead no power then the right went dead and the flasher relay started making a whirring noise I figured the relay is shot bought another relay from triumph incidentally priced at $85 (highway robbery when an automotive relay is only $10 )I also bought the $10 relay back to the problem I hookup the new relay turn the ignition and... no power to the turn signal no flashing neither left nor right ..but the main rear light start FLASHING with either left or right selection and a faint light in the front turn signal as well as the yellow parking lights inside the head lights I look up the diagrams and I cannot find a common cause nor why the main rear light flashes when turn signal are selected any ideas from the electric brains out there!!
I should mention these new blinkers I installed are regular bulbs not LEDs

thanks guys

I went back and check grounding and polarity as suggested and tested again the old empiric way replacing all parts everywhere from one end to the other between flashers and relay and it led me to a F*****ing connector between turn signals and relay
wrong metal or wrong conductivity I do not know but changing them made the system work ....now we will see in the duration if it keep going?? these connectors came from germany very slick they are very thin needle like and take very little space plus there is a rubber casing in which the connector fits in looks like they may have been not designed for 12 volts ?? anyway i keep my finger crossed

also waiting to see if Oz bike insurance would cover us for the potential trip next year from LA to OZ

 

[TURBO200R4]

hi
hanso is probably right the common cause that you may be looking for is the way they are grounded.
L turn,r turn,tail light, ft turns,and parking lights all use the same grounds which goes right back to the computer. you are probably back feeding the system with 12 volts. i don't know what you got but i would disconnect some or all of the stuff and do some checking.
useally a single contact is grounded to the side of the socket, while a 2 contact runs the ground wire to another place.
hope i have explained this right
herman
ps i will be around for about an hour

 

[HansO]

I should have mention my No 1 rule of Triumph (or any bike) electrics is to use Dielectric Grease on EVERY connection, it all bar Guarantee's a better connection

 

[albertaduke]

I should have mention my No 1 rule of Triumph (or any bike) electrics is to use Dielectric Grease on EVERY connection, it all bar Guarantee's a better connection

yes siree I will dielectric all contacts before running all the wires and connection in their tubings thanks you all for the quick help

 

[albertaduke]

yes siree I will dielectric all contacts before running all the wires and connection in their tubings thanks you all for the quick help

the turn signals are mounted and that is what they look like

 

[Dawg68]

I should have mention my No 1 rule of Triumph (or any bike) electrics is to use Dielectric Grease on EVERY connection, it all bar Guarantee's a better connection

X2....at the minimum it will prevent future corrosion at any open connection. I also add dielectric grease on connections that I splice. I will squeeze the grease into the shrink tubing prior to shrinking. Most of it will squeeze out but what remains will percent corrosion.

With respect to changing your solder less connectors, the old one more than likely had a bit of corrosion that was causing intermittent power, intermittent contact. Rule of thumb on electrical connections that are exposed to the elements, like most on motorcycles is to clean your contacts prior to making new connections. The way I do this is to purchase a can of electrical contact cleaner, spray the contact point then with a small jewellers file, clean the mating points of the solder-less connectors. After making your connections,with the battery disconnected is to take a resistance reading with your multimeter on either side of the contact to ensure that you have no resistance. Meter should read 0 ohms. Anything other than that means there is resistance which will cause problems. In that case clean the contact again. If you do this at every connection you touch chances are you will have no headaches when you turn the power on. It takes a little longer to perform your task but should alleviate problems. If the connection is good, like Hanso recommended, use dielectric grease.

Glad to see you found the fault..cheers