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Xchoppers said:
... The liberals will tell you we should all just talk out our disagreements and avoid fighting altogather.
We all know this is true, ... but totally unrealistic!
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Not! Spreading the right word instead of the rule of conquest takes an understanding of something other than central governance. The founding fathers constructed a US Constitution. IF this were adopted by all peoples I wouldn't be surprised were PEACE to break out.
 
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"But to say you couldn't be prouder because he's dead is an insult."
well this does give good reference about you. the statement you misinterpret means they are proud of his actions. you knew this. no one is "proud" of the end result to him of his heroism. saddened , not proud.
you seek to enflame for whatever your reason.
i personally find it offensive.
 
HeR3tic said:
Not! Spreading the right word instead of the rule of conquest takes an understanding of something other than central governance. The founding fathers constructed a US Constitution. IF this were adopted by all peoples I wouldn't be surprised were PEACE to break out.
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Sure, but trying to persuade religious fanatics is impossible. People have been slaughtering people since the beginning of time under the justification of their religious beliefs. It will never end... To think that can be changed is totally unrealistic. If you don't understand this basic point, there is no reason to discuss the issue further...
 
Xchoppers said:
...To think that can be changed is totally unrealistic. If you don't understand this basic point, there is no reason to discuss the issue further...
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I believe it is possible. And because I don't agree with how you "think" the subject is closed! There's arrogance for you. Why dunt you esplane it fo me. No, on second thought, keep it to yourself.
While you ponder your next retort consider who, WHY, and when were the religious aggressors through the ages. It's all about power, centralized power: control, loss of freedom and individuality, taxation to build more power...corruption. It really is bigger than you believe. The founding fathers put together a set of rules, it's called the Constitution. Because we [our corrupt gummit (and those persuaded to turn from the light)] have nearly eliminated it from existence and we have turned away from the light. Had we remained in the light and our beacon had been bright enough that alone would have brought about much greater peace. I believe it was not unrealistic.
 
I've never fought in a war, but have battled others on the Net who were doing their deeds in the name of Allah; originating from several countries - including the U.S.

In the old days, when only Microsoft-based servers were exploitable, the strategy was to simply implement a patch or firewall to stop them.

Today, I still do those things but take action to hunt them down. Some organizations are willing to cooperate and shutdown or confiscate whatever is necessary. Others would prefer to support the Islamic Hacker. You may be surprised how many companies, countries, and service providers believe that their way to Heaven (as well for as their loved ones) may be achieved by supporting a web site attack.

I agree that if all countries embraced the US Constitution that it would provide a foundation for positive change, but there are a lot of sinners in this world - and while I have no exact numbers to provide my belief is that there is a significant number of those sinners think that the only way to overcome their mis-steps in this lifetime is to set fire to the United States and Kill everything within it.

This is being shared not to sway this discussion in either direction, but to offer a perspective that doesn't yet have an answer.
 
travelguy said:
"But to say you couldn't be prouder because he's dead is an insult."
well this does give good reference about you. the statement you misinterpret means they are proud of his actions. you knew this. no one is "proud" of the end result to him of his heroism. saddened , not proud.
you seek to enflame for whatever your reason.
i personally find it offensive.
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If I misinterpret what someone is trying to say and post about that misinterpretation and how I disagree with it, it's not ok. But, if you misinterpret what I say and posts about how you are offended, that alright? How does that work?

I sought in no way to inflame anyone or anything, that would be your misinterpretation. Should I judge your character now?

Not everyone here is going to agree on things, and nobody has to, so why would you (or others) jump down my throat about it?

Does everyone have to share the same views as you? Did I jump down RatBoy's throat about what he said? No, I simply said I disagree. I didn't judge him or tell him how his statements say all I need to know who he is. I summarized why I disagreed.

When you asked me to clarify what I stated, I concluded it with, "Just doesn't sound right to me." Which happens to be a common problem on a lot of forum based sites, the intent that someone had when they were typing was lost in translation.

Unfortunately, as many times as I go back and reread, it still doesn't sound right to me, despite your explanation of his intent.
 
Anyone remember what the orignial post was about? It was about actions speaking louder than words. How many of you would jump on that grenade for someone else here???
 
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