No worries my friend! I was planning on fuel/smoke/stretch/whatever brakes evey 50 or so miles. Since we have folks staying in various locations and as you say, with none of us being spring chickens, Jasper seems like a good place to eat and fuel up before the rides. I would ask folks to speak up and have input on the times for "kickstands" up from Jasper, then everyone can plan for the meet up/ breakfast/fuel from their location. With folks staying at various locations, the logistics of "hearding feral cats" (Thanks Wendy), can get a little complicated. I'm not dead set on the Ozark cafe, but I do need a start/end point for planning routes. Of course if the route ends at Jasper and we ride close to an individual's accomidations before Jasper, they could simply exit the route as needed. All that said, this is a good reason for everyone to stay at the same place or close, but it simply isn't possible in this case...... So should we plan for a later departure, say 10:30 and shorter, say 150 mile routes. There is so much good riding near here that you can't really go wrong. I was going to try and get in a "Push Mountain Road (341) ride, but it would mean a 200 mileish day????? Please all speak up. Lonnie