Claviger
Aspiring Student
- Joined
- Jul 25, 2014
- Messages
- 6,934
- Location
- Olympia Washington
- Ride
- '21 Z H2, '14 R3R, '02 Daytona 955i
Thinking back a couple of years, I remember the bike having a notable rise on throttle, especially in 2nd.
Fast forward to now, when hard on the gas I can’t feel the shaft effect anymore. It feels like squat now when hard on power.
In trying to understand the effect, power output should be irrelevant to the anti-squat geometry changes produced under power, because the more power you send back through the shaft, the harder the anti-squat effect.
At least that’s how my brain is processing it. For the more suspension/geometry smart people, is that accurate?
I’ve been watching Max McAllister’s series of movies on YouTube and he’s got me curious about what happens to the R3 geometry under power.
One thing it seems is common to other bikes, I’ve never experienced on the rocket:
Running wide after apex, I’ve always felt that power on helps me tighten my line on the rocket and I am able to really roll on quite early in the corner.
When riding with sport bikes I’ve noticed I’m usually on power 1-2 seconds earlier and often much harder, often already at full power as they are just starting to feed it in.
Conversely they’re always braking much later and deeper, so we tend to do this pogo dance where they pull away on entry, a little bit mid corner and I feel them in on corner exits.
Do you guys feel the same about corner exit drive?
Fast forward to now, when hard on the gas I can’t feel the shaft effect anymore. It feels like squat now when hard on power.
In trying to understand the effect, power output should be irrelevant to the anti-squat geometry changes produced under power, because the more power you send back through the shaft, the harder the anti-squat effect.
At least that’s how my brain is processing it. For the more suspension/geometry smart people, is that accurate?
I’ve been watching Max McAllister’s series of movies on YouTube and he’s got me curious about what happens to the R3 geometry under power.
One thing it seems is common to other bikes, I’ve never experienced on the rocket:
Running wide after apex, I’ve always felt that power on helps me tighten my line on the rocket and I am able to really roll on quite early in the corner.
When riding with sport bikes I’ve noticed I’m usually on power 1-2 seconds earlier and often much harder, often already at full power as they are just starting to feed it in.
Conversely they’re always braking much later and deeper, so we tend to do this pogo dance where they pull away on entry, a little bit mid corner and I feel them in on corner exits.
Do you guys feel the same about corner exit drive?
