Ramair Comparison

[MikeCR]

Hi guys,

(This may end up as multiple posts... I have tried a couple of times now to post this stuff but keep hitting size limits so we will see how it goes.)

I posted recently about finding differences in manufacturing between Ramair's advertised kit and the kit I found installed on my R3.

Because there was a tear in the foam I got a replacement filter from Ramair and took some pictures of it next to the one I removed for comparison.

It is certainly possible that changes in the manufacturing process account for everything I see. I'm just providing information.

The filter i received from Ramair was received in September 2018 and the Ramair kit previously on the bike was installed November 2017. (Though it is possible the kit was purchased before then)

Here are the pictures I collected...

EDIT: The "old" kit was installed PRIOR to November 2017. The bike is a 2015 so was not installed before then but could have been purchased prior.

 

[MikeCR]

This is the sensor port.

New filter; Ramair emboss and smaller sensor hole.

Old filter; no emboss and larger hole which had an additional rubber ring inside which held the sensor

 

[MikeCR]

Construction of collar

New filter; one solid piece where collar and back plate seem to be combined

Old filter; collar seems to be a separate piece from back plate

 

[MikeCR]

Foam/back plate construction

New Filter; back plate and foam seem to be separate components that are attached

Old filter; it looks like the rubber was over molded onto the foam? not really sure about this

 

[MikeCR]

Inside Collar

New filter; square edge on outboard side and tapered edge on inboard side of channel

Old filter; square edge on both inboard and outboard sides of channel

 

[MikeCR]

Mesh cage

New filter; way more overlap on top of cage and cage is taller by not quite a cm. (granted old cage is a little smooshed I tried to measure from a flat bit)

Old filter; less overlap on top and shorter

 

[MikeCR]

This is a side by side comparison for height of filter, collar and, base plate. New filter on left

A couple of bubbles I found inside the rubber of the old filter.

 

[MikeCR]

That is all of the images (hopefully anyone other than myself can see them)

I also had two videos which I don't know how to post here... maybe youtube links? All they show is me smooshing the backplate from the sides and showing how the new filter is very rigid and the old filter is very not. I don't think a component meant to attach to the engine should change from vulcanization to be softer but that is possible.

 

[BillyIndiana]

Very telling thanks for posting. You can see the quality difference for sure.

I use my Youtube page for posting here and on FB. Works great.

 

[Tal]

Looks like the new one is genuine...not sure about the old one tho..