Question about Powder Coating

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The carpenter pipe I have on my 2011 bike was ceramic coated as it gets hot hot hot and did I mention it gets hot.
The TORs I have on my 2018 bike(not Wills mine) now can they be powder coated? as we all know the Triumph pipes have terrific heat shields, my question is what heat can powder coating stand and are all powder coatings the same heat wise?
 
The carpenter pipe I have on my 2011 bike was ceramic coated as it gets hot hot hot and did I mention it gets hot.
The TORs I have on my 2018 bike(not Wills mine) now can they be powder coated? as we all know the Triumph pipes have terrific heat shields, my question is what heat can powder coating stand and are all powder coatings the same heat wise?

Yeah they must be as the Black factory TORs versions came out for the X and i sold a few years ago now.
 
Jet hot coatings. Contact them you won’t be sorry, for instance a lms header, off road coating like an 80 grit, guaranteed for life will not chip. 2000 degree rating, if it ever fails they will put on the extreme 2500 for free. If that fails bike was on fire. 287.00 includes return shipping. You ship to them at your cost. Again this is an estimate for a lms header. If it’s a clean pipe no powder coating and no chrome you can possibly save a 50.00 stripping fee. Many colors! Never do again!
 
Depends! Most powder coatings are comprised of polymers that melt at 450F or less. Dry powder is electrostatically applied to the object and then the object travels through a furnace that melts the plastic powder so that it wets the surface, smoothens out to an even layer and then solidifies as the temperature falls below its melting point as it leaves the furnace. These coatings can take about the same heat they were baked at before they are damaged. They are tough, elastic and very good at protecting the substrate.

Other powders made from metals such as powdered aluminum can take higher heat up to the melting point again so about 900F or thereabout. To have even higher heat resistance requires ceramic powders, such as glass or silicones, or other materials that have melting temps as high as 2,300F. These are similar to porcelain in some respects.

The question to ask a potential coating vendor is this: How high is the temperature of your baking ovens? The answer will tell you how much heat their coatings can likely take. Jet Hot brand "chrome" is as good as I have found. To be really effective exhaust pipes are coated inside and out. The inside coating acts as both a thermal barrier and a reflector reducing the heat that gets to the metal. There are likely some others equally good, but a whole bunch that are crap despite the advertising otherwise.

Exhaust headers can reach 1,400F if un-covered and way higher if under heat shields. That dull red you may have seen on the stock exhaust is about 1,100F. The color turns to bright cherry at 1,400F and then orange at about 1,650F.

Sprayed on liquid coatings by definition are not powder coatings, although some contain metal or silicone particles in suspension and can survive exhaust manifold temperatures, but only for a while before they whiten and lose color. After that they reduce to ash, flake off, and leave the under lying metal exposed.

Outer heat shields might survive with a powder coating but that would depend on their proximity to the underlying pipe.
 
Thank you for all the replies, the TORs are well heat shielded in fact you cannot even see the exhaust it is so well hidden behind the heat shields so no way is it going to get anywhere near as hot as my Carpenter, what I could do is fire the big beast up and take some temps with my heat thingmajig thing .
Basically it is the heat shields that will be powder coated, the two big ugly pipes on the Roadster are covered in heat shields so I will take some temps and post my findings.
 
The three little covers on the top of the manifold get up to 240f
the three vertical heat shields get up to 160f
The horizontal section right below the manifold reaches 135f
The shields before the big trumpets reach 100f
The big trumpets reach 110f

As said the heat shields on these big beasties are fantastic, now as my little device only goes up to 900f I will not be able to get a reading from my sidewinder exhaust:D
 
I have a set of Pauls headers and firstly had them painted black with heat resistant paint, then I wrapped them in fibreglass. When I had a small modification done by Paul I had them sent away and HPC'ed (High Performance Coatings), had the outside done in black and a heat proof inner ceramic coating. What worked best? This last system it works incredibly well, still can get hot when crawling for a long time but that's the price for performance mods sometimes.

I think normal powder coating will just burn off and it needs to be a specialist coating.
 
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