Old British Motorcycle Companies

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    I've pulled this from an earlier post that was going off topic - but was starting to get interesting.

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    My dad had an S7, the sunbeam factory was only 2 miles from where Iive, even though the later bikes were made in Redditch most of the parts came from the Wolverhampton factory, sad that it is all gone now, along with Norton Villiers Triumph



     

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    I've alway wondered what Brough and Vincent would be doing now had they remained in business.

    I believe the Sunbeams at the Black Country are the "real Sunbeams" before BSA was involved.

    Some purists get quiet heated in discussions and do not regard the S7 and S8 as Sunbeams.

    They have a real Fish and Chip shop at Black Country Museum - cooked in goose fat.
     
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    Laytons of Oxford - 1939 Catalogue

    Images from Laytons of Oxford - 1939 Catalogue.
     

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    is that your S7 Lionel ? a beautiful example if it is, as you say some of the Sunbeam purist's consider it to be a BSA :)
    That is a wonderful picture of Laytons, makes you wonder where all those bikes are now ? I have attached a photo I took at the Ace Café London of a Brough Superior, I think it is an old SS100 like my dads, Laurence of Arabia famously died crashing one as most people know who like these amazing machines.
    My dad also had an Aerial Square 4 which had the problem of the 2 rear cylinders overheating, I wonder did the Sunbeams have that problem with the rear cylinder ?
     

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    No not my S7 - I posted it by mistake when trying to post Sunbeamland photo, have a few on my desktop and picked the wrong one.

    I think it was from an earlier post on here a few days ago.

    Never saw the Laytons showroom in the above photo. (1939) But did see their showroom further down the road in Park End Street about 1968.

    I remember it was full of bikes just like the photo of their 1939 showroom.

    They also had a showroom in Old Road Headington - Oxford, that's where I saw the BSA Rocket 3 in the window. They sold cars as well.

    This is my S8 Will try and find picture of the S7.
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    Found picture of my Sunbeam S7.

    1953 model, been in storage since 1980.

    I bought it about 3 years ago with intention of changing all the oil seals before I used it, as they have probably hardened in storage. Not had the time to do it yet, so never had it out on the road.

    With the dynamo being on the front, really need to change that oil seal to keep the oil out of the dynamo.


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    That Brough looks like a real antique.

    When you look at some of the layouts that the British manufacturers came out with, if it was not for WWII, many would still be in business now, who knows what they might have come up with by now.

    Never liked the Two Stoke Ariels but did like the Square Four, and the four strokes.
     
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