*Clutch switch has absolutely nothing to do with Fuel Indication.*

Side stand switch DOES report to the ECU - if sidestand is down & transmission is clicked into gear it kills motor
So if removing then bypass must be wired as if stand was in raised position

I (somewhat) see point of bypassing clutch switch for those who feel pulling the clutch lever to engage the starter is onerous (although personally dont see that it's a big deal);
But what is the 'advantage' of bypassing the sidestand switch? It provides a valuable safety interlock while having no downside

* Edit - I rethought this after initially posting (thinking why would anyone suggest it to be the case)
I don't know for sure but potentially the computation for fuel consumption does not work if/when clutch is pulled (or bypassed); not sure why that would be a factor but potentially it might be the case
So I'm retracting the original statement as being definitive.
Someone (volunteer?) should bypass their switch for test & see if does or not
 
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Re the side stand switch, I biffed the bike down the road about 4 years ago.
The side stand switch was wrecked in the accident so I simply removed it and joined the wires together.
I did get a new one, but have just never put it on.

I've been riding M/C's for over 45 years, so for me personally, flicking the side stand up is as natural as ..... well ... anything.
 
*Clutch switch has absolutely nothing to do with Fuel Indication.*

Side stand switch DOES report to the ECU - if sidestand is down & transmission is clicked into gear it kills motor
So if removing then bypass must be wired as if stand was in raised position

I (somewhat) see point of bypassing clutch switch for those who feel pulling the clutch lever to engage the starter is onerous (although personally dont see that it's a big deal);
But what is the 'advantage' of bypassing the sidestand switch? It provides a valuable safety interlock while having no downside

* Edit - I rethought this after initially posting (thinking why would anyone suggest it to be the case)
I don't know for sure but potentially the computation for fuel consumption does not work if/when clutch is pulled (or bypassed); not sure why that would be a factor but potentially it might be the case
So I'm retracting the original statement as being definitive.
Someone (volunteer?) should bypass their switch for test & see if does or not
*Clutch switch has absolutely nothing to do with Fuel Indication.*

Side stand switch DOES report to the ECU - if sidestand is down & transmission is clicked into gear it kills motor
So if removing then bypass must be wired as if stand was in raised position

I (somewhat) see point of bypassing clutch switch for those who feel pulling the clutch lever to engage the starter is onerous (although personally dont see that it's a big deal);
But what is the 'advantage' of bypassing the sidestand switch? It provides a valuable safety interlock while having no downside

* Edit - I rethought this after initially posting (thinking why would anyone suggest it to be the case)
I don't know for sure but potentially the computation for fuel consumption does not work if/when clutch is pulled (or bypassed); not sure why that would be a factor but potentially it might be the case
So I'm retracting the original statement as being definitive.
Someone (volunteer?) should bypass their switch for test & see if does or not

I have a downside to the kick switch. :thumbsdown:
My engine always quits from the sidestand down after pulling into a park spot.
I have walked away only to find upon returning, my battery DOA because I forgot the kill switch!
 
Wow Warp! that question was asked quite some time ago.
The answer is, I removed that side stand switch a couple of years ago, no problems what so ever.
I've been thinking of pulling the Clutch switch as well, just haven't gotten around to it.
I guess the easy answer is just to unplug it and see what happens.
Yes and when you do have the lap top hooked up so you can see what happens when you pull the clutch in . This should be done both prior to bypassing it and then after. You also might want to have her in the air so you can run her thru the gears.
 
I had a short in the clutch switch wiring years ago. By passed it at the relay. No safeties. Grounded the relay.
 
*Clutch switch has absolutely nothing to do with Fuel Indication.*


* Edit - I rethought this after initially posting (thinking why would anyone suggest it to be the case)
I don't know for sure but potentially the computation for fuel consumption does not work if/when clutch is pulled (or bypassed); not sure why that would be a factor but potentially it might be the case
So I'm retracting the original statement as being definitive.
Someone (volunteer?) should bypass their switch for test & see if does or not
Ok your edit give me a little more thought and I would have to compare map tables to see but you could be on to something considering the fueling equations should have a parameter indicating what gear it is in so it can select the right fueling and timing, not to mention little things like how far the secondaries are open if you have not changed them. Maybe with clutch pulled in you revert to the neutral map until you release it and the GPS sends the gear selection parameter. I'm not sure just thinking out loud.
 
.... Maybe with clutch pulled in you revert to the neutral map until you release it and the GPS sends the gear selection parameter. ....

If that is the case, then bypassing the clutch switch would mean it is ALWAYS in the Neutral Map
That is EXACTLY what happens with Suzukis and there is SIGNIFCANT power drop if the clutch is bypassed. The clutch switch not enables the starter, it also engages the 'Neutral' Map for best starting conditions.
It has always been my concern that with the later Keihin ECU's this could be a factor with Triumphs also.
Only way to know is dyno it with the switch open & closed & see if there is difference.
 
Hello. My switch has come totally loose from the handlebar and the pin even detached. Other posters have commented that because the current for the fuel indication flows through this switch, the indicator will fail if the switch has issues. My fuel indicator is kaput. Thus far, I can not find reference in the manual as to how it works and how to restore. Any ideas?
That would explain why my fuel gauge no longer works.
 
It sure can, but I wouldn't. I've ridden HDs for years (no clutch safety switch), and I've started/attempted to start the beast in gear. Problem with a bike with this much torque is the thing may leave without you!
 
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