The real problem with the starter relay - starter mod issue

idk said:
Bypassing safety systems is rarely a good move.
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The clutch lever starter cut out switch is more of a nuisance than a safety feature. Motorcycles were just fine without them for about a hundred years. This is unnecessary feature which only makes licensing authorities and insurance companies feel good about themselves.
 
Fun read. Hey DEcosse, when I doubled my ground cable to the engine block and installed the Eastern Beaver kit (plus a larger starter) to solve my cold starting issue, I found that too many wires were piling up on the ground post of the battery. Using my giant brain, I found a convenient bolt on the frame, sanded the frame to bare metal and bolted down various ground wires. It works, but should I run a ground wire from the battery to the frame there or can you suggest something better?

Rolls
 
British bikes have always Ben infamous for their electrical systems, you had to be careful "not to let the smoke out" of the wires.
That's also why Brits drink warm beer, they have Lucas refrigerators. old jokes, lol
 
Now my turn. And some kind of karma . . . just went out to start my bike and . . . "clank" in place of the expected three pistons moving. Tried it several times, and now, no "clank" -- just an apparent current draw.

Somethin' ain't right.
 
DOH!!!!

Jumper the neg. on the relay to ground n see if that fixes... The switch gremlin has been fed after midnight!!!

Joesmoe said:
Now my turn. And some kind of karma . . . just went out to start my bike and . . . "clank" in place of the expected three pistons moving. Tried it several times, and now, no "clank" -- just an apparent current draw.

Somethin' ain't right.
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Rolls-Hog said:
... I found a convenient bolt on the frame, sanded the frame to bare metal and bolted down various ground wires. It works, but should I run a ground wire from the battery to the frame there or can you suggest something better? ...
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@Rolls-Hog - keep the bolt, ditch the frame connection :D

Just stack your grounds on a bolt and nut and one short ground wire between the ground stud and the battery.
 
Joesmoe said:
@JSHRAM Believe you me, we FEEL your pain. Fifty years ago, people lived with 'unreliable'. My father had a tool box in the car, and I have many childhood memories of being on the side of the road underneath the car, handing my father tools (and if at night, holding the flashlight). And the vehicles were "fuel and spark".

Roll forward, with their greater complexity (beautiful descriptions here @DEcosse et. al., and elsewhere [for some reason, reminds me of looking at the art and sculpture of the great masters in museums]) and our sensibilities have changed to the point -- few things are more disturbing than a machine the operates intermittently - usually relegates it to garage queen status.

Thank you for coming forward to enable this excellent discussion.

Hope you are soon sorted, and get back to us, please.
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I had the same issue...saw a thread about holding the starter button whilst slowly letting out the clutch until it fires. With my clutch fully pulled in the switch would not make...removed and cleaned and lubricted and all working again.
 

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