JSHRAM
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I had the dreaded starter relay problem..
"Click.. " (un-click).... nothing...
I read through all the posts and found the starter mod video whereby one adds a second relay to engage the starter relay.. OK.. did that. Didn't fix it.
Here's why:
The problem is the clutch safety switch. When you pull in the clutch, the switch closes and completes the ground circuit for TWO things.. first it completes the ground circuit for the starter relay and second it completes the ground circuit for the ECU so it can power the injectors (if the ECU doesn't see a complete ground, it won't open the injectors).
The starter relay has a positive/negative that closes the relay so power can flow to the starter. The starter switch on your handlebar closes and sends power to the relay. The clutch switch, when clutch is pulled, closes and grounds the relay. My clutch switch, closed, was showing 30 ohms... it should show ZERO ohms. That resistance through that switch keeps the starter relay from staying engaged (hence click-un-click)..in my case, the ohms were high enough that when I did the starter mod (adding a second relay), the clutch switch would not ground the ECU.
Here's the fix:
Go to the starter relay.. find the ground wire to the relay, splice into it and run the splice to the frame. There's a nice bolt right above the relay to use.
Done. The only downside is you've now bypassed the safety switch on the clutch so the bike will start without the clutch being engaged. The gear and side-stand switches still work.
There you go... enjoy!
John
Oh, because I didn't un-hook my clutch switch and it is not a complete circuit, it knocks the ECU out if I pull the clutch to start (new habit, don't pull the clutch) so it turns over, but won't start.... probably just my case, but thought I'd mention it.
"Click.. " (un-click).... nothing...
I read through all the posts and found the starter mod video whereby one adds a second relay to engage the starter relay.. OK.. did that. Didn't fix it.
Here's why:
The problem is the clutch safety switch. When you pull in the clutch, the switch closes and completes the ground circuit for TWO things.. first it completes the ground circuit for the starter relay and second it completes the ground circuit for the ECU so it can power the injectors (if the ECU doesn't see a complete ground, it won't open the injectors).
The starter relay has a positive/negative that closes the relay so power can flow to the starter. The starter switch on your handlebar closes and sends power to the relay. The clutch switch, when clutch is pulled, closes and grounds the relay. My clutch switch, closed, was showing 30 ohms... it should show ZERO ohms. That resistance through that switch keeps the starter relay from staying engaged (hence click-un-click)..in my case, the ohms were high enough that when I did the starter mod (adding a second relay), the clutch switch would not ground the ECU.
Here's the fix:
Go to the starter relay.. find the ground wire to the relay, splice into it and run the splice to the frame. There's a nice bolt right above the relay to use.
Done. The only downside is you've now bypassed the safety switch on the clutch so the bike will start without the clutch being engaged. The gear and side-stand switches still work.
There you go... enjoy!
John
Oh, because I didn't un-hook my clutch switch and it is not a complete circuit, it knocks the ECU out if I pull the clutch to start (new habit, don't pull the clutch) so it turns over, but won't start.... probably just my case, but thought I'd mention it.