Dr.D
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I have a 203/166 bike that is a blast to ride, I know how you feel.
Claviger
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I liked 200ish because at full lean you can dial in full power on corner exit starting at the Apex and the bike will stand itself up without braking loose in second if you have nice hot tires. Resulting in drive off a corner no sportbike can match.
With higher power it lifts the front or spins the back, which looks great and is fun, but is certainly not the fastest or safest way out of a corner.
I'll have a read through your build Dr. D.
@Steel I use power point actually and some scaling/adjusting trickery to get it overlay properly. It's not hard, but it's also an approximation with some room for human error. It shouldn't be off by much though.
With higher power it lifts the front or spins the back, which looks great and is fun, but is certainly not the fastest or safest way out of a corner.
I'll have a read through your build Dr. D.
@Steel I use power point actually and some scaling/adjusting trickery to get it overlay properly. It's not hard, but it's also an approximation with some room for human error. It shouldn't be off by much though.
1olbull
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To me, seems the dyno graphs are not consistant in their X - Y axis ratios. Import the JPG files into a CAD program, scale them all the same and then overlay. Would be pretty accurate, I reckon.
Claviger
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I do the x/y alignment manually. More precise software would help accuracy, but, the method I use is within a 2-3 hp window, close enough imo.
Dr.D
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I'm not sure i'd give my full throttle out of an apex in second gear??????? Well if I'm "on the pipe"( old two stroke term for in the power band) I'm doing 70 mph so I doubt I'd get a lot wheel spin.
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Claviger
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It took me quite a while of slowly building up to trusting full power in 2nd leaned over, a lot. What really got me pushing was chasing my buddy, who races liter bikes (and has won every race he's entered this year) while he was on his fireblade. Always a game of " keep him in sight even if I can't keep up". On corner exit I always gained a bunch of ground, braking I'd lose a little ground and mid corner he's pulling away as expected. Mind you I'm riding at 100% effort, he's probably at 80...
That's when and how I figured out how to back in the rocket into a corner. It's not something I go out and plan to do, it just happens as a factor of riding hard enough for it to occur.
Charge a turn in marker at the top of 3rd, feed in front brake to threshold, blip, drop to second and the rear will start wiggling hard, which you can guide outward and finally as you reach the marker release the front quick but not abrupt and throw it into the turn, roll on quick but not abrupt starting at the Apex and by the 3/4 mark of the turn reach the throttle stop. Shift to 3rd just as you're coming straight up and down and moving your butt back in the saddle. At this point you'll be reeling in bike lengths very quickly.
It's the most rewarding, difficult, and mentally intense thing I've ever done on a bike along a 5 mile stretch of "the dragon" style curves on Mufasa. I'll usually only do a run or two as it's SO easy to over do it, and the bikes literally at it's limit (and so am I).
God I miss my bike right now... Lmao.
Dr.D
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Sounds thrilling and complex but I think you are a bit more accomplished as a rider than I am. I’m not ashamed to admit I’m not the best rider but I can run a curve and enjoy the G force. I am still new to this much power and learning how to safely manage 200+ hp.
Glad your back I like reading your stuff.
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I'm certain there are many on these boards who can/will school me lol. We all ride our own way at our own speeds and comfort level.
I'm slowing down quickly on the street as the risk of riding at the limit is simply not worth it to me (most of the time) these days.
I just know Jvhelis going to have a blast at Maggie with his new setup
I'm slowing down quickly on the street as the risk of riding at the limit is simply not worth it to me (most of the time) these days.
I just know Jvhelis going to have a blast at Maggie with his new setup
Dr.D
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I am looking forward to seeing his bike, wish you and Mufasa were there having a good time with us.
Jvheli
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Just an update on how this thing is holding together (or not)!
Returned home yesterday from Maggie Vally and now the build has roughly 3500 miles on it.
I averaged 40+mpg at 75-80 mph while covering flatter terrain. High 30s in the mountain areas. I’m well pleased with that!
This kit is very much at home in those lovely mountain roads. You do have to ride it differently than a stock bike, cause the low end hp and torque (below 2500 rpm or so) is lower. However, if you keep the motor happy and not ride it like a Harley it astounds me how capable this bike is! I’m totally loving it!
So boys, no regerts ! Lol, not even one!
Returned home yesterday from Maggie Vally and now the build has roughly 3500 miles on it.
I averaged 40+mpg at 75-80 mph while covering flatter terrain. High 30s in the mountain areas. I’m well pleased with that!
This kit is very much at home in those lovely mountain roads. You do have to ride it differently than a stock bike, cause the low end hp and torque (below 2500 rpm or so) is lower. However, if you keep the motor happy and not ride it like a Harley it astounds me how capable this bike is! I’m totally loving it!
So boys, no regerts ! Lol, not even one!
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