Time for a new rear tire, car tire or bike tire ?

I failed my motorcycle road course test at the DMV trying to get my motorcycle license. I had a motorcycle tire on the rear. If I had a car tire on the back I would probably have dropped my bike. I didn't realize the course was so tight. Knowing how the car tire behaves it would be impossible to even think about doing the course with one.
 
12000 miles later I'm looking at expose metal and I'm debating on which tire to go with, any comments or or suggestions would be appreciated. Metz Is expensive, everyone knows that , I'd like to hear which brand and dimensions on car tires anyone is having luck with.

Depends mate...are you fitting the tyre to a car or motorbike. Then again you can install a jacuzzi on it if you like but not sure it will help it be the best bke it can be:cool:
 
Holy $hit this gets old!
With no offense intended to the aforehand, I have ridden a car tire motor and would not use one.
I totally respect anyone's right to do so. Those that do this have many issues to discuss such as fit size, profile, air pressure as they shop for the CT that best emulates a MC tire.
This is a thread dedicated to "The Dark Side".
Why don't we just allow folks to discuss their car tires in peace without continuous harassment?
This thread should be a safe zone.

More censorship???

Someone above said, and I've been told before, that there's no such thing as a "car" tyre. Given that the Dark Side is something to do with Star Wars I'm at a loss to understand what it is we're not supposed to talk about in a thread where the OP sought advice on tyres for his Rocket.

Don't really think your idea of a "safe zone" is going to work, amigo. Are we going have other safe zones? Anything I post for example? Unless people are going to agree with something I post, they cannot comment? Don't think a public discussion forum works that way mate. ;)
 
There is no such thing as a car tyre. I challenge anyone to show me a genuine picture of a tyre that says it is a car tyre. They are passenger vehicle tyres, and are labeled as such. The motorcycle is a passenger vehicle and therefore it is legal to run passenger vehicle tyres on it. A number of motorcycles come with passenger vehicle tyres as OEM. In the eyes of the law, a motorcycle is a motorcycle - whether it has two wheels or three. It is illegal to put motorcycle tyres on a car. At least, all the above is the situation over here. It is worth checking the laws in your location. Go to a primary source, not your mate down the pub.

I don't know why Triumph Australia would void your warranty because of the tyre. Every warranty claim I made in the USofA was honoured by Triumph.

There is a clause within every insurers policy stating that a vehicle (that means bike, car, truck or anything that is registered for road use) MUST be in a roadworthy state. Local state laws also stipulate the terms of what constitutes a road worthy tire of which one element is the manufacturers recognition of a suitable tyre, correct size, speed ratings, load ratings etc. This can be elaborated but suffice to say that a car tyre does not meat any Australian state or territory law as a roadworthy item on a motorcycle.

Frankly, I don't give a tinker's damm what anyone puts on their motorcycle.

Here's the truth:

Car wheels (rims) and motorcycle wheels have different beads as do the tires that are designed to be mounted on their respective, appropriate rims. In this country, you run the risk of invalidating your insurance by cross-mounting tires on rims that they are not designed for. Federal regs are the guide - D.O.T. - feel free to look it up yourselves as I did years ago.

Insurance cases have been made, adverse to car tire users on motorcycles. Why don't you hear about it? Simple, when the settlements are made, the insurance companies invariably require non-disclosure agreements from their formerly insureds, who may have incurred or caused or experienced a personal liability. Insurance cos. will do anything they can to legally avoid paying out claims.

Run a motorcycle tire... as I said, I care not. Just don't go whining to anyone if you have, cause or are involved in an accident, because if your insurance company decides to handle your case as they will if they ordinarily would have to pay out a claim when personal liability is involved, you will be S.O.L. and possibly much poorere for it.

More than likely, this scenario would play out even worse in Australia where they have some really Gestapo-like policies when it comes to vehicular regs.

BTW, Openroad, I speak from both experience and knowledge. I've previously run car tires on three different large cruisers for a sum total of approx. 30,000 miles. That includes 7,000 miles of the ****tiest handling, highest personal risk and tiring, physical, overcompensating, wrestling match-like miles that I've had out of the nearly 25,000 miles I've put on my Rocket.

My $0.02...

Stop making sense mate, you are going to stir the pot..and .... you are not allowed to have your opinion if you disagree with a fckin pain in the arse member so SHHHHHH

More censorship???

Someone above said, and I've been told before, that there's no such thing as a "car" tyre. Given that the Dark Side is something to do with Star Wars I'm at a loss to understand what it is we're not supposed to talk about in a thread where the OP sought advice on tyres for his Rocket.

Don't really think your idea of a "safe zone" is going to work, amigo. Are we going have other safe zones? Anything I post for example? Unless people are going to agree with something I post, they cannot comment? Don't think a public discussion forum works that way mate. ;)

How fckin dare you have an opinion and make it public!!!!!!!! I am furious!!!! I have been told that I should disagree with you and follow some cockheads opinion of you unless I have an issued man card for some retarded fkin twit with a full of sht opinion - (no disrespect to any retarded people, I'd hate to put you on the same category of some twits that post sht on public forums).


Now you guys that don't agree with everyone and make well informed, educated, knowledgable, sensible and factually based decisions, STOP IT!!! Just stop posting..appaerently there are a minority of fcknuts that are the only ones that are allowed to answer a question.


Can anybody explain why I only see the posts of 20 people after I hit the ignore button on every scumbag that posts?

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Sometimes you get stung, but hey, it's just hanging there asking for it! I love car tire threads! :thumbsup:
 
yawn...another darkside thread...more bullsh!t from both sides. So here's more from me.

What type of rider are you, OpenRoad? One post said mostly interstates. IMHO, that makes you suitable for running darkside.

Are the beads different between car tire and m/c tire. Yes. Does it matter with the loading, power, longevity, etc? No. Of the millions and millions of miles that have been run on darkside on various m/c's, have you EVER had a documented, validated case of an issue with the beads? I haven't. Can you create an issue in a laboratory setting? Sure.

In the USA, we have the Magnuson-Moss Act which prevents manufactures from voiding your warranties if you make modifications to your vehicle. Fitting a car tire is treated the same way as fitting triple K&N's.

Insurance companies are insurance companies. My neighbor is an AllState agent and is also a high mileage Goldwing rider. He sees no issue with running a car tire from an insurance standpoint.

Discussions about running on sidewalls is more about the riding style of the person commenting. They are not suitable candidates for the darkside. I have over 40k miles running darkside and have never been up on a sidewall. Not my style.

Discussions about contact patch are usually just wrong. The illusion of thread lifted off the pavement masks the reality that there's still a tremendous amount of thread still on the pavement.

Here's my advice if you are considering darkside:

  • Start with a 225/55-16. It is still plenty beefy and minimizes the camber affects. A 245 is just too much, imho.
  • Again, imho, most satisfied darksiders have mounted the Riken Raptor ZR. There are a few other good options but also some less than optimal options.
  • Give it time after mounting. The first 100 miles will be "wtf did I do?" The next few hundred will be "this ain't so bad." From then on it's "yippee!!"
For the record, I got 29k miles out of my first Riken. $85 and $20 to mount. Lasted 3 years. Below is the old vs the new.



Plenty beefy in the 225/55.
 
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